Canelo vs Calzaghe at 168

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by granth, Dec 20, 2020.

  1. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    Oct 18, 2009
    Calzaghe would beat Froch
    Froch would beat GGG
    GGG beat Canelo

    Don't you just love triangle theories
  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 20, 2007
    That it was a controversial win over an over-the-hill Hopkins is the false narrative when it was a masterclass how to take Nard's weapons away, something no one really did before. Watch from 12th round to 1st in reverse order and you'll see 8 rounds of completely ineffective Nard.

    That's what Calzaghe always did vs. boxers and boxer-punchers (Kessler, Lacy), stared at the fire (sometimes got bloodied) then put it out by smart tactics, adaptability, elusiveness, speed and high output which is exactly why I think he clearly beats Canelo cause Joe is just all wrong for him. The right narrative is that Calzaghe beat a late-prime Hopkins at his own game while moving up in weight, the same Hopkins that made a complete fool out of Pavlik a few months later when everyone incl. probably you picked Kelly to win. I picked Hopkins BTW.
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  3. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Jan 5, 2017
    jermain taylor did it while hopkins was still the MW king...twice.
    there's no "false narrative" around the fact that hopkins was already dethroned, into his forties, past prime and the calzaghe fight was his third loss in five fights.

    saying that "calzaghe always did (that) vs. boxers and boxer-punchers" has a lot to do with never fighting a great fighter in their prime.

    anyway you spin it, joe's best win against a fighter in their prime was kessler, and his best win was against a 42/43 year old man, after 46 fights.

    the right narrative is not calling hopkins "late prime" - nobody's in their prime on any level in boxing at that age, but he was still a very good fighter.
  4. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Jan 5, 2017
    but that's what happens when the quality of your opponents is consistently of higher quality, you face stiffer challenges and are tested more.

    again, i agree with a lot of the rest of your post.
    i don't doubt calzaghe's quality, only his unwillingness to test it at the highest level.
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  5. Aussie Invader

    Aussie Invader Boxing Addict banned Full Member

    Jan 5, 2017
    no he hasn't, but calzaghe never fought the quality of opposition that has put canelo on top of the world.
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  6. Mighty

    Mighty The Gypsy King banned Full Member

    Sep 17, 2021
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  7. Themessiah

    Themessiah no hables tanta mierda Full Member

    Feb 1, 2021
    Calzaghe wins because of output and his cardio. Canelo usually comes at you in the later rounds but Calzaghe doesn't slow down
  8. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    Most decent Middleweight Champions and Super Middleweight champions would beat Lil G. Super Joe Calzaghe would dominate GGG/Lil G or whatever he calls himself.
  9. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict Full Member

    May 13, 2018
    :lol: GGG clearly beat him twice cupcake… Calzaghe would slap him silly
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  10. First Round KO

    First Round KO Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 14, 2013
    Calzaghe beats anyone, period.
  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

    May 6, 2021
    But this is fanboi 101... Sorry, 111*
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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 4, 2016

    Yeah a lower level.
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  13. Cally

    Cally Sand...sand... nothing but sand! Full Member

    Sep 12, 2015
    I stopped reading on the first page when one poster said joe was stiff and basic

    Errr, okkkkkkkk....
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  14. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Oct 4, 2016

    Thank you Brighton, you've described exactly how this fight would go
  15. Kow Hardzaghe

    Kow Hardzaghe New Member banned Full Member

    Oct 30, 2021
    This is geting daft, Calzaghe pickers, if you switched their resumes and it was Joe Calzaghe who went up four divisions winning and unifying world titles, yet Canelo only unified for one fight in one division..then you'd pick Canelo instead?
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