Canelo vs Crawford is OFF

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  1. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    Crawford would have been brutalised at 168 by Canelo it was silly talk.. he almost lost at 154. I think some people are just crying out for another US P4P king.. Mayweather syndrome. Crawfords the closest they have got & they've convinced themselves that he can do anything in the sport including beating the undisputed Super Middleweight champion LOL
     
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  2. BCS8

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    I wouldn't be disappointed if he put Paul in the hospital though. JFC, finally a live body that can actually defend the sport of boxing from the ultimate cherrypicker Paul.
     
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  3. LrryMrchntsFlsk

    LrryMrchntsFlsk Active Member Full Member

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    You are correct!
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    By that logic, Jake Paul and Benavidez are "too big" for Canelo and those fights shoudn't happen because "there are weight classes for a reason". The weight difference between Jake Paul and Canelo is a lot more than Bud Crawford and Canelo. And the size (+weight) difference between Canelo and Benavidez is far greater than Crawford and Canelo, yet everyone wants to see that.

    The logical next fight for Canelo is William Scull, which gives Canelo the opportunity to regain Undisputed. Yet many people on here were hating on that fight, despite the fact that he's now a proven World Champion in Canelo's weight class.

    I don't know, it seems like whoever Canelo chooses to fight (except Benavidez of course, which would involve Canelo moving up to 175 to fight a guy without a world title, which would make no sense) people are going to complain about.

    If Jake Paul actually managed to win a World Title at Cruiserweight or something then I could see Canelo wanting that fight. But for Canelo to fight Paul in a non-title fight, obviously it would be a very lucrative fight, but it does nothing for him. Despite the fact that Jake Paul for all his limitations is a challenge for Canelo just given the size advantage Paul would have. Canelo has never fought someone that big.

    People are acting like Jake Paul would be a walk in the park for Canelo. But I'm not so sure, again "there are weight classes for a reason". Everyone would expect Canelo to KO Paul, but we're talking about a Super Middleweight KOing a Cruiserweight. That would be nuts, and exciting just to see Canelo try. I mean Canelo may be good enough to do it, and maybe he would KO him, but it's still a herculean task for ANY Super Middleweight to KO a Cruiserweight. But I think when people talk about Canelo vs Jake Paul they're pretending like Jake Paul is the same size and weight as Canelo.

    We always hear there are weight classes for a reason but act like Canelo would have an easy time KOing a Cruiserweight. It's sort of absurd given that several years back people were making fun of Canelo for wanting to challenge for a World Title at Cruiserweight.

    Jake Paul has said he wants to win a Cruiserweight World Title this year. If I was Canelo, I would only fight Jake Paul if he wins a Cruiserweight Title. Beating him in a non-title fight makes the whole thing seem like a Money grab. I mean it would be a money grab but this is Prizefighting after all. Just because Jake Paul is coming off a farce against Mike Tyson, doesn't mean it's not a challenging fight for Canelo given the weight difference.

    Every time Canelo has fought at 175 he has struggled, looked slow. Canelo is an ATG but "there are weight classes for a reason". I'm sorry but fighting a Cruiserweight even a guy who many see as a joke as Jake Paul is still a huge challenge. Jake Paul would have like a 30 lb functional weight advantage against Canelo. Paul's issues are stamina related, but Paul clearly has skills and KO power. I mean hell Paul could just lean on Canelo the entire fight and just tire him out lol.

    As far as Canelo vs Crawford being "on" then "off" i have no clue what's happening there. But for people to say it shouldn't happen because Canelo is too big, but yet these same people want to see Canelo fight Benavidez who Canelo is a midget compared to, they're all cool with that.

    Boxing fans are so fickle, they'll move the goal posts in every which way depending on how the wind is blowing.

    Canelo should fight Scull next period. I don't see Scull as some bum either, the guy is clearly talented, look what he did to Shishkin, a guy that many on here were sure was way better than Scull. Canelo should Recapture Undisputed. And that would entice Crawford even more to fight in September, if Undisputed would be on the line. Then see if Jake Paul can win a Cruiserweight Title. If he does, then there's a reason for Canelo to fight him.

    Same with Benavidez. Lets see him fight the winner of Bivol Beterbiev 2, lets see Benavidez become a Unified Champ then Canelo has a reason to fight him. I don't want to see Canelo fight Jake Paul in May, as big as it would be, I'd rather see him fight Scull, a guy in his weight class. IMHO Canelo should not consider moving up in weight until he cleans out 168 once again.

    Personally I would like to see him fight Scull, then Mbilli. Then defend against Crawford, and THEN maybe Canelo can fight Benavidez or Jake Paul in the years to come, when/if those guys become World Title holders!
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Canelo & Crawford are both bums with ego's far greater than their achievements.
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cut this crap out. YOU were one of the many here who posted that Canelo just beat the best LtHW in Kov when they fought. Now Canelo is too smal because Bivol beat him.
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We're talking about the hypocrisy of fans who do not not want to see Crawford vs Canelo because Canelo is "too big", yet they accuse Canelo of ducking a guy Benavidez who is much, much bigger than the difference in size between Canelo and Crawford.

    There's weight and then there's size (height, reach, etc). But given how much Canelo has already struggled at 175, both vs Kovalev and against Bivol, anyone at 175 is going to be a challenge for Canelo let alone Benavidez. Canelo and Crawford are similar height and Crawford has a longer reach. Meanwhile Benavidez towers over Canelo. And Jake Paul is a freakin Cruiserweight and many see that as a joke fight that Canelo is sure to win easily.

    This logic makes no sense. We hear over and over again from fans about how there's weight classes for a reason, but then they throw all that out the window when discussing a possible Canelo vs Jake Paul fight. The only reason fans want to see Canelo fight Benavidez is because they want to see Canelo lose, and the only way he can lose in their minds is by fighting a freakin monster who towers over him and has a massive weight advantage against him. Yet they say they don't want to see Crawford Canelo for the exact same reason, because Canelo is "too big". Even though we know, as Serge and others have accurately pointed out that Crawford pretty much walks around at Super Middleweight and matches up quite well to Canelo in terms of height and has a longer reach. Obviously Canelo is way thicker than Crawford, but these same fans say nothing about how much heavier Jake Paul is than Canelo.

    And then when we talk about Canelo fighting Scull, the logical next opponent, fans criticize that too. None of this makes any sense. How many fans on here were sure that Scull would lose to Shishkin thinking Scull was a bum. Then what happened, Scull took care of business and proved he's a serious contender, now a World Champ.

    In any reasonable boxing fan's mind, Scull's win over Shishkin proved that he's worthy of a Canelo fight. Make the Canelo vs Scull fight, then either Crawford for September or Mbilli. If Mbilli in Sept, then in 2026 you could do Canelo vs Crawford at 168. That gives Crawford another year of putting on weight and getting naturally bigger, then Canelo win or lose vs Crawford could move up to Fight Benavidez or Jake Paul next year when maybe 1 or both of them are World Champs. That's what makes sense.
     
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  8. FreddieGibbs

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    Personally have no interest in this fight. Would rather see Canelo fight Benavidez and Crawford fight any of the top 154lbers
     
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Benavidez isn't even a World Champion at 175!!! Why would Canelo move up to 175 to fight a title-less Benavidez? That's DUMB!! Benavidez has made it clear he's not moving down to 168 fight Canelo. He's too big!! Wait until Benavidez fights the winner of Beterbiev vs Bivol 2. Then the fight makes sense if Canelo is feeling like moving up, not before Benavidez has a World Title.

    While Canelo is at 168, the fight to make is William Scull. PERIOD! Enough of this Canelo hating Fanboy nonsense. Fight Scull for Undisputed. Canelo has an opportunity to make history and become 2X Undisputed. Fans talk about how important Undisputed Title Fights are, and here we have the opportunity for one and instead fans want to see Canelo drop everything at 168 and fight Benavidez at 175 in non-title fight? That's nonsensical.
     
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  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No hypocrisy. Was Canelo a LtHW Titlist? Yes/no? Was Benevidez his top contender in his SAME DIVISION @ 168 for a good amount of time? Yes/no.


    And BTW, Jake Paul is a complete non-factor in any of these discussions.
     
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  11. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Naught to do with it; the plan was supposed to have been Paul in May and Crawford in September.
     
  12. BCS8

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    Against guys like Bivol who are themselves boxing maestros.
    Paul is a bum. He's the equivalent of a low tier journeyman. I reckon Canelo would sweep him into the trash.
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  13. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jake Paul is about to find out what happens when he steps in a ring with an actual elite fighter who isn't an old man. I hope Canelo treats Paul like he would anyone else. Given the vast gulf in skills, I'd expect he'll batter Paul to a stoppage (or just knock him out). When you get to THAT level of skill difference, size doesn't mean much.
     
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  14. FrankinDallas

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    Don't give the promoters any ideas.

    I was online the other day checking out hotels for the 12-15 September in Vegas. I was going to take along the guys in my avatar and was looking forward to a good time. Called 1-800 LV Hooker to confirm prices.

    And NO I'm not going to see Canelo-Paul.
     
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  15. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Damn!! I was going to thoroughly enjoy watching Crawford get put out onto his face
     
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