Canelo vs Eubank jr @ 164 How would this go?

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Canelo vs Eubank Jr @164

  1. Canelo by points

    44.1%
  2. Canelo by tko

    16.9%
  3. Draw

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Eubank Jr by tko

    15.3%
  5. Eubank Jr by points

    23.7%
  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Sure

    First off, this comment of yours makes you seem like you have no credibility in this topic. Canelo, and most elite fighters are capable of landing a perfectly timed punch to KO their opponents regardless of weight disparity. It makes me wonder how long you've been following boxing. The fact that you think it's "laughable" that the possibility of Canelo KO a regional level fighter makes me chuckle at your boxing insight.

    You do realize that Cotto fought extremely defensive, and was light on his feet. It is COMMON KNOWLEDGE that a fighter fighting defensively is harder to KO. Cotto is an elite fighter and it was clear his main priority against Canelo was to eliminate any risk of getting KO by fighting more defensively than he EVER HAS in any of his 40+ fights.

    Chavez Jr., have YOU ever seen Chavez fight a timid as he did against Canelo? Of course not. Chavez Jr's main priority against Canelo was CLEARLY not to get stopped. Again, its very damn hard to KO a fighter who is unwilling to land his own hard punches for fear of getting KO.

    So both of those points are do not make a strong case for your opinion.

    At his own weight? lol

    Q: What does GGG, Cotto, Lara, and Chavez Jr have in common aside of them all facing Canelo??

    A: They all fought Canelo in a completely different manner than they usually do.
    GGG failed to go to the body, missed a hell of a lot of punches, failed to land many significant punches, and was outlanded in power punches.
    Cotto fought strictly on his toes, and was content with peppering Canelo instead of his usual seek and destroy style incorporating a body attack.
    Lara, OMG I have not seen an elite fighter run as much as Lara did against Canelo in a long time, even for Lara's standards Lara ran way too much.
    Chavez Jr., when have you EVER seen Chavez fight as timid and UNWILLING to engage??

    Kinda hard to KO your opponent when they are not taking risks wouldn't you agree?

    LOL, what a nice fantasy you have there. Complete mismatch, yet fought GGG on even terms, whether you agree with the scores or not. Each round was close, and both were competitive against each other with Canelo taking his rounds more clearly. Eubanks on the other hand DUCKED Golovkin, he lacks confidence, or its probably his father who LACKS CONFIDENCE, or likely both. Definitely lacks the warrior mentality required to be elite.

    GGG did an amazing job pressuring Canelo between rounds 4-9. I doubt Eubank has the chin, the resilience, the power, and the experience that GGG has to replicate or outdo GGG.

    LOL, this last line is hilarious. Really no need to respond to that.
     
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    Phelps-Brady Slicker than Raspberry ripple banned Full Member

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  3. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im a fan of Canelo im not grasping at anything. The same poster i originally replied to replied to me and my reply to that i gave almost all of the same reasons you mentioned as to why that instance should not just be disregarded but admired due to the resolve he showed at such a young age on such a big screen.

    The poster - who is well known and VERY knowledgeable made an extremely rare(for him) oversight that he forgot and i merely reminded him of it and corrected his oversight. Thats it. Dont take it as a personal attack against your boy who im also a fan of. Toughen up a little buddy.
     
  4. HerolGee

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    caneolo kos him pretty fast.
     
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  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    I explained why he wouldn't and supported my claim with reasoning. You haven't explained anything and you're making this about me when you should be making it about Canelo and Eubanks.


    Exactly , he used a drained , weakened Chavez as a heavy bag and still couldn't come close to dropping him , never mind actually stopping him. There was nothing coming back from Chavez. He stood there taking shot after shot every round.
    Canelo wouldn't KO ANY version of Chavez.
    Eubank would have mounted such a sustained attack on that lifeless body that the ref would've been left with no other choice but to stop it.


    Wrong. Cotto fought both Margo fights entirely on the backfoot. Trout forced him to box off the back foot as well. Canelo didn't do any better against Cotto than Trout.

    Wrong again. Lara fled from Gulo. Angulo literally had to run after him.


    Because he was drained to a corpse. That fight was a disgrace.

    Fighting Eubank is a totally different proposition. GGG was slow as a sloth and never put his punches together. Canelo saw everything coming and was able to time and counter him at will and GGG never had the urgency to up the ante.
    Eubank is fast , explosive and relentless. Unlike GGG , he has the speed to rip hooks to Canelo's body. His engine , fearlessness and iron chin is a stylistic nightmare for any smaller guy who has serious stamina issues.
    Eubanks body shots would ruin Canelo


    GGG did nothing to Canelo in those rounds . Round 5 was all Canelo.. As far as chin is concerned , Canelo hasn't the pop to make Eubank blink and hasn't the legs to implement a stick n move game.

    Understand the styles that make fights. Calazhe was not a pure boxer like Kessler , but he won due to attrition.
    The same would happen here , although Canelo takes a worse pasting due to his atrocious level of stamina and conditioning , then there's the huge size disparity there is between the two.
     
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  6. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    I think you're the one who took it personal.

    My post was monotone and emotionless and on point, while YOU resorted to responding with a defensive and condescending post.
     
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  7. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look, bro, this is the internet, and all the dialogue over it is typed. Saying you were monotone and emotionless is a little silly. Maybe you were when you typed it, but next time maybe read over it before you post it. Lastly, my reply wasn't defensive or condescending, I was pointing out if you had read maybe 5 posts past what you quoted you would have seen I made the same points you did when you quoted me. That's it.

    For the last time, I'm a fan of Canelo Alvarez. Big fan. I wasn't trying to take anything away from him - like I stated in the post you quoted - I was just pointing out an oversight.
     
  8. STEPHEN1990

    STEPHEN1990 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eubank is wide open for punchers and all this great chin workrate what top fighters has he fought to have a great chin and let's see his workrate non stop punching when his getting hit flush and hard Canelo wins it's unreal real the hype
     
  9. destruction

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    Canelo WIDE UD win.

    Eubank Jr couldnt even beat Billie Joe for F sakes.