Canelo vs GGG IV who takes it

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  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Last time I checked his 2 losses are to Money Mayweather and Prince Dmitry Bivol not Lil g who he conquered.
     
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  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you haven't learned by now, CJ doesn't face the facts. He resides in a boxing fantasy world. I've tried to extend an olive branch to CJ in the past, and attempt to meet him halfway on certain things, but he refuses to reason with anyone who sees things differently than him.

    Say what you want about me, I have my opinions which I'm sure many disagree with. But when someone with a differing view wants to have an actual discussion about it, I'm very willing to re-evaluate my own views if the person makes sound arguments.

    Like on the one hand, I might have a little fun and say Canelo GGG 3 was a one-sided landslide for most of the fight (which isn't a minority view), however I know some GGG fans argued it was close. There's nothing wrong with people having different views on how close a fight was. Some people say Canelo Bivol was one-sided, I maintain it was close on a round by round basis and I explained why. Boxing is inherently subjective and while I poke fun at CJ for denying that Margarito used loaded gloves, I did consider his arguments and it made me think twice about what went on there.

    The problem for CJ is he stretches his credibility on that when it comes to his views on Canelo GGG fights. I've said countless times that I have no issue with anyone who scored the first 2 fights for GGG. Those were very close and arugable either way. The 3rd fight I saw as a very clear and mostly one-sided Canelo win. Some people see that as closer, including the judges, I get that, I respect that, but at the same time I can't agree. So what, we're not gonna agree on everything. Canelo is a very polarizing figure in boxing. He has a lot of fans and a lot of haters. But whether you like him or not, he has elevated boxing and is a role model for young aspiring boxers as to how to conduct yourself and dedicate yourself to your craft.
     
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  3. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Canelo. GGG is finished, he was awful in their last fight.
     
  4. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nah, Golovkin got him the first two times, then Canelo waited him out tell he was forty, then barely beat him. Canelo barely edged out most of the early rounds, then Golovkin edged out the later rounds. 7-5 was fair. In 12 rounds Golovkin got a little scuff on his forehead that was probably gone by morning time. Low blows dont count. Canelo hit GGG low plenty, only barely got in a few body shots. Canelo's head shots were like little slaps to GGG. Canelo could do nothing with GGG Then gassed. On the other hand Ryder was a mess after round five, thats the difference in class. GGG nullified Canelo, just didn't apply the pressure early enough.
     
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  5. DRUGS

    DRUGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Question...

    Did Golovkin do or say something I missed? Since you are a proud member of Team slick, PBC, LDBC ect... Can you tell me what he did that made him so hated by you and your clique?
     
  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    I think he still mad over the first fight where G beat Big Red Aze
     
  7. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You, of course, checked the results of the Ginger Nutt provided by the NSAC & Vegas boxing didn't you ??? lol
    Why not try Aesopps fables or Hans Cristian Andersen's fairy tales you'd probably find them more accurate
    Don't bother to thank me its just I feel sorry for you believing Ginger only had 2 losses
     
  8. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    He has a right to be mad too He whupped that Ginger nutt TWICE!!!! but the Vegas Mafia gave him a bogus draw & win
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    What happened to Gingers bragging he was going to KO GGG & force him into retirement. GGG really just played with Ginger He got a good paycheck & Ginger barely landed a glove on him LOL
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Just look at the 2 names on the above post ? Shadow & Olu ROFLMAO. Both avid worshippers of Canelo & Floyd ROFL Both have cheated & used peds, plus had the state commission & Vegas boxing official to ensure they never got caught & never "lost" a decision either. LOL
    That's nuff said isn't it lol
     
  11. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your in the minority for the first two fights, so i know you are familiar with what that feels like, but it doesn't stop you from voicing your opinion about those fights, thats for sure.
     
  12. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True, he couldn't do anything with him, and GGG barely got into 2nd gear.
     
  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm in the minority on the 1st fight, the 2nd fight not so much. I had GGG doing better on the scorecards in the 2nd fight than the 1st. GGG landed more in the rematch because Canelo was right in front of him, which was what GGG asked for. In the first fight Canelo was slippery, elusive and GGG couldn't land meaningful punches. On the other hand, Canelo took some rounds off in the mid-rounds of the first fight, and he dished out more punishment on GGG in the rematch, but also got hit more.

    While I might be in the minority on who won the 1st fight, I take no issues with those who scored the first 2 for GGG as I recognized both as close and debatable. The difference is you (and some of the majority) don't recognize the first fight as all that close or debatable. I do however take issue with anyone who scored the 3rd fight for GGG, or even for giving GGG as many as 5 rounds as you argued. That doesn't mean we can't have a friendly disagreement over how close that was, but just as you and many other GGG fans said I was in the minority about the first fight, you were are in the minority about the 3rd fight. So all that does is balance things out, and proves that being in the minority doesn't mean someone's wrong, but it is something you can say when someone's arguing with you and trying to act like the public's view on what you're arguing is so overwhelming that it's not even debatable, which is the game you've been playing with the first 2 fights then all of a sudden you found yourself on the other side of that fence for a change after the 3rd fight.
     
  14. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was a punching bag for the first 8 rounds, he didn't come to fight which is what you're all about supposedly. He finally started fighting in rounds 9-12 but it was too little too late. He was already well behind and had no chance to win a decision after fighting scared and getting beat up for 8 rounds.
     
  15. The Cryptkeeper

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    I love GGG but his performance in the 3rd fight gives me no confidence that he'd win if they fought again.

    He arguably should have been given the decision in fights 1 and 2 though.