Canelo vs GGG

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by El Meza, Mar 12, 2020.


Whos taking it this tume

  1. Canelo UD

    15 vote(s)
    44.1%
  2. Canelo KO/TKO

    9 vote(s)
    26.5%
  3. GGG UD

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  4. GGG KO/TKO

    9 vote(s)
    26.5%
  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Abel Sanchez disagrees with you.
     
  2. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This guy deserve to be on everyone ignore list:
    Golovkin’s trainer: ‘I scored the fight even,’ but credit to Canelo Alvarez for the win

    And this is because Sanchez only boxing he knows is go straight forward like a tank.
    The same guy that was saying that he see a lot of mistake in Usyk game and that he ain`t nothing special, before Usyk totally dominate Gassiev and Sanches obviously has no clue.
    And sorry to ruin your fun, but the Facts and the Stats are against you.
    Sorry to ruin your fun, but i don`t need someone to come and tell me who`s won a certain fight i have my very own eyes and i know boxing and how fight is scored.
    And i`m not spamming every thread like you crying like a baby, trying to help your case, when more than 90% of the people here voted for GGG in the poll after the second match.

    This was your last time losing my time, i`m putting you in the right place - ignore list.
     
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  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Your opinion doesnot match the majority End of story
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    You're a little ***** who has a difficult time with opposing views.

    My bro... here you have Sanchez saying Canelo deserved the victory. What else do you want? Reputable people who scored it for Canelo?.I gave you that. All time greats like Foreman, Duran, Chavez, Tyson. What else?

    Don't cry man. Its boxing. It's ok if people with more credentials than you scored it for Canelo.
     
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  5. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    It matches ATGs, trainers, boxers, judges, and many people who truly know how to score a fight..

    But hey, you stick to your list of unpaid boxing journalists.
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Youll find more fighters picked GGG than Pollo & anyway Sanchez said it was a draw
     
  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    When you look at this videos and the numbers at the end, you realize how corrupt the boxing is towards certain fighters.

    I ignored this guy, cause he obviously a biased troll, and you did not learn anything from discussion with trolls.
    He can cry all he want, but the second fight Golovkin won it, just like he did the first time around.
    Trying to twist a facts, how body punch counts more than a solid strong jab, its ridiculous. There is a body punches and body punches and there is jabs and jabs.
    Some jabs maybe arm punches, some maybe more powerful then the right hand. Same as body or so call power punches(also to the head), just because they are scored as these, doesn`t mean they are actually hard punches. They could be, but they could be not, depends how they land.
     
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  8. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, look at what Abel Sanchez says on all other interviews on who he thought won.
     
  9. IsaL

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    I don't care what he said a day or two or a week after to get on Golovkin's good side. When Sanchez was humbled he admitted and accepted that Canelo won and deserved the victory.

    I don't understand why it's so difficult for you and some other stans to accept that.

    Sanchez is not the only one who thinks Canelo won, there is a long list of fighters, trainers, and boxing legends who had Canelo winning.

    You can tell yourself Golovkin won all you want, and that's fine, but as I said many top boxing figures disagree with you.
     
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  10. shadow111

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    This is critical to understanding what actually happened. Sanchez an experienced trainer recognized that Canelo defeated his fighter and wasn't protesting the decision. He accepted the result and admitted tbat Canelo deserved to win.

    IsaL I honestly don't know what this forum would do without you. Without your guidance these GGG fanboys would be lost in a world of total delusion. You break it down for them so clearly. A lot of times it's best to go with your initial gut reaction rather than a delayed "weeks later" response that may have changed how you viewed something. Although we're talking about the rematch here, in regard to the first match between the two we saw this phenomena amongst GGG fans, who at the time everyone agreed it was a very closely contested bout that could be argued for either guy. That was totally understood by the vast majority of fans after the first match, even though a large majority believed GGG won, a large majority didn't see it was a clear GGG win. And a lot of this majority saying GGG won that first match was because of what people's expectations were going into the first bout.

    The simple fact is that the vast majority expected GGG to win, they thought Canelo was scared to fight him and expected Canelo to get knocked out or hurt badly. That and that alone is the overwhelming reason why the vast majority had GGG winning the first bout : people's expectations. Fans thinking GGG was an unstoppable beast and thought that Canelo stood no chance. So when it came to a decision in which Canelo fought the way he did, in retreat a good amount, that combined with expectations and with GGG throwing more punches and fighting in a more come forward style, it's no wonder why the vast majority had GGG winning that first bout.

    After the first bout the expectations were different : many recognized how good Canelo was, recognized the fact that GGG couldn't stop him or hurt him in the first match and many were more open to Canelo winning. Then combined with how Canelo fought in the rematch (come forward Mexican Style) it's no wonder why more people had him winning in what really was an equally competitive match over 12 rounds just with both fighters fighting in different styles and the opposite of the first bout when Canelo came on strong in the final rounds in this case it was GGG coming on strong in the later rounds. So the rematch was an almost total role reversal the only difference is that the big punches (aside from that big moment by GGG in the 10th round) were still landed by Canelo.

    Also the spanish speaking community, particulary the general public in Mexico, isn't really being included in these numbers. Many of the spanish speaking community don't have internet don't vote in your online polls so we are only getting a tiny percentage of the population. The population in Mexico, the general public, overwhelmingly believes that Canelo won both matches with GGG.
     
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  11. IsaL

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    I can accept if anyone who isn't well versed in the 10 pt must scoring system had both fights for Golovkin. They were close fights after all, and I love boxing enough to understand that scoring can be totally subjective.

    I personally had the first fight wider for Canelo than the rematch using the 10 pt system. But again, I also understand that scoring can be subjective.

    What trips me out is all these GGG fanatics and Canelo haters in complete and total denial about Golovkin losing. Even if you think GGG edged it, surely if your of sound mind you can agree with Abel Sanchez, Golovkin's trainer and accept that Canelo deserved the win and he put it... but no, these GGG fanatics for whatever reason cannot admit that Sanchez was right. And again, its not just Sanchez but many respected boxing personalities like Sugar Ray Leonard, Grorge Foreman, Mike Tyson, Roberto Duran, and many other legends.

    I like psychology, and it's a bit intriguing to try to understand why these guys who hate Canelo cannot agree with Sanchez and all these boxing legends.
     
  12. eltirado

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    Too bad, because most of us thought GGG will KTFO Canelo, its either GGG was overrated (due to Great Amateur background), or maybe Canelo is underrated (due to the Mayweather 74" reach-speed out-boxing). Can a 70" reach Mayweather outbox Canelo? GGG has the same reach as Canelo and looked un-effective, Floyd never takes risks, but he should have taken prime GGG (who will have a puncher chance due to height)...Floyd don't take those kinds of risks...
     
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  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Take the risk or lose the chance Full Member

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    Name them make a list
     
  14. m.s.

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    I Haven't met one Mexican that thinks Canelo won both fights, most think GGG won both fights or the second fight was a draw. I'm in construction and run into these guys all the time.Some didn't see the second fight because they were so disgusting with how Canelo ran in the first fight and lost the fight but still got a draw.
     
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  15. m.s.

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    The second fight was so competitive that you can't watch it wonse live and come up with a clear winner. Although on fight night I thought Golovkin clearly pulled it out. Watching it second or many other times, the only times the second fight comes out a draw is if I'm sleepy and give the round to the more aggressive guy. When I'm very alert and clear headed Golovkin is the clear winner.