Canelo vs Golovkin 2016 - who takes it

I'd just be trolling you because nobody can have an honest debate about Canelo when you are involved. Rumour has it his nutsack gleams like chrome after you pass through town.

 

A better question would be Canelo of 2021 vs golovkin of 2016 at mddleweight with both being fine at the weight

 

GGG was very capable of beating Canelo at that time, a year before, a year after. There wasn't much change in the condition of either fighter at that time. GGG arguably did better in the rematch than he did in the first fight, many GGG fans have made that argument, and that was an older GGG, so what does that tell you?

You're arguing that Canelo was slightly worse a year earlier. I'm not sure that's true. Look at how dominant he was in the years before he moved up to fight GGG, he dominated Kirkland, he beat Cotto with ease, he stopped Liam Smith with a brutal body shot, he knocked Khan out cold, he stood between rounds vs Chavez Jr. The question is more about how much better GGG was a year earlier than Canelo was. A slightly younger GGG may have done better, but we're probably looking at pretty much the same fight. I just rewatched the first round of GGG 1 again, you look how Canelo came out moving around the ring, giving GGG angles, I think any version of Canelo would have prepared for GGG the same, it was just a matter of when he decided to move up. He knew how tough GGG was and how cautious he needed to be, whenever the fight happened, he would have prepared accordingly.

Canelo is just a far more athletic and intelligent fighter than GGG. GGG is very stubborn with tunnel vision, you watch that first round of the first time they fought, when Canelo landed that punch then quickly backed away making GGG whiff, it was right then and there you knew that GGG was in deep waters. Canelo thinks outside the box so he would always be a stylistic nightmare for GGG.

You talk about the Brook fight, and remember GGG did not look healthy in the pre-fight press conference before he fought Brook. Had that unhealthy version of GGG fought Canelo it would have been even more one-sided. You would have to go back a lot farther to find a verison of GGG that would have a better chance of beating Canelo. GGG vs David Lemieux for example, that version of GGG would have a much better chance of beating Canelo. But not the version of GGG who fought Brook who was arguably in even worse condition than he was when he fought Canelo despite being younger. That was like you said the first time we saw GGG look like he was starting to slip. He didn't appear to slip any further between Brook and Canelo, the slip was evident when he fought Brook, not after, looking unhealthy during fight week, getting hit too much by Brook. That was the first time GGG fans started to realize GGG was not invincible and that's when the excuses about Canelo not fighting him soon enough started pouring in.

 

I'm not even sure that Mr "I'm too small for 160" can even make 160 any more.

 

Golovkin took it in 2017 and arguably in 2018.

A 2016 version would have been younger and more dangerous.

 

Shut the **** up you lying twisting, exaggerating dirt bag.. Everyone saw in that thread what a lying deceitful, manipulative twat you are

 

Canelo would win much easier, Canelo is far better and more dominant now than he was when he fought GGG. I think most people see about 2015 as the year where the tide really started to turn in Canelo's favor. People still considered GGG "Prime" when he fought David Lemieux but after that he started to slip and people started to see Canelo start to come in his own. So before 2015 I think you'd have to favor GGG. After 2015 I think you'd have to favor Canelo. 2015 I think would be pretty much a toss-up.

 

In actual fact people were telling GGG that if he looked bad in the Brook fight he might get Canelo in the ring BEFORE the fight.

 

Emo butthurt kid Q. awwww "May have been parried" boy.

 

In fairness wasn't that DLH who said that, did Canelo ever say he was too small for 160?

 

He took it, that's true, he took a beating.

 

GTFOH with that crap.

YEAH IT WAS ALL OSCAR'S DOING!!!

OSCAR invented 155 and insisted fighting at that weight

 

Yep. Great beating


Weren't you the guy who said that "Canelo taught Floyd many lessons" from their 2013 fight?

 

It was all Oscar's Doing, you know that.