Canelo vs Mayweather, compare it for me (to Sergio martinez vs JCC Jr fight)

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  1. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I saw the fight days after reading through how everyone here said Floyd was so dominant. Honestly I was scratching my head looking for that dominance. Whilst I agree that 1 could make a case of Floyd winning 11 of the 12 rounds, all of the rounds were quite difficult to score and anyone bias towards Canelo could make a case to score many of those rounds for him, as he was the aggressor. Also I saw Floyd missed so many shots.

    Put it this way, Canelo was never in trouble, nor rocked at any point in that fight.

    For me, dominance was what Floyd did to Marquez, or what Pac did to Cotto.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Martinez vs Chavez was a mismatch through 11 rounds.

    Mayweather vs Canelo was competitive.
    Most rounds were up for takes heading into the last half minute of the rounds.
     
  3. Kid Cubano

    Kid Cubano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Junior had a chance after been schooled, another round and he wins the fight.
    Canelo could've gone 20 rds, still same outcome.
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yup, and that's exactly what I said, that it was even until the last half minute of the round, and Floyd closed out the rounds better than Canelo did. But all those rounds except for the 7th were on the table heading into the last half minute, and in a round that close even with a strong finish by one guy could still be won by the other guy if you determined that he was landing the better punches in the first 2 and a half minutes.

    That's what drones like Dan Rafael don't understand and that's why people like him don't know sh*t about boxing.
     
  5. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so the damage was only incurred in the twelfth round, huh?

    then why does sergio have a bad cut under his left eye in round nine?

    skip over to 3:18 of the video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsI7DF-6P78


    the closest floyd got to receiving a cut against canelo is possibly a "paper cut" when he signed the contract.

    and the cut over bridge of the nose and left head of martinez here.

    skip over to 3:13 and 5:05 of the video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKQtmRnQbI

    look at the crowd on their feet in rounds eleven and twelve!

    the only time the crowd was ever on their feet for floyd and canelo was going to the bathroom or getting a beer.

    for some reason i have a hard time believing that anyone would think that floyd and martinez "compared" to be the same after their fights with canelo and chavez, respectively.

    but thats just me.

    a guy that goes by facts, videos and most importantly...

    a man without a pink coc-k in his mouth.
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I said "Though most all the damage Martinez took was in the 12th round"

    He wasn't damaged too badly until that 12th round, but sure he did have a cut.

    Haha. And you know what, you could say the same thing about Canelo. i.e.:

    "the closest canelo got to receiving a cut against floyd is possibly a "paper cut" when he signed the contract"

    Neither Floyd nor Canelo got hurt. Neither guy caused much damage at all. They both have good chins and apparently good skin and don't cut easily.

    And Quincy, this is one of the reasons why I think fans deserve a rematch. Because maybe in a rematch they would open up more and it could be a more exciting fight. (regardless of who you are rooting for)
     
  7. Quincy K

    Quincy K Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    im just saying.

    sergio received damage in that fight and one can make a case tht julio ruined, or at a minimim, took something out of him.

    saying that canelo did as well as julio is a disgrace to mexican boxing as julio was right there at the end.

    he just started(or sergio faded) two rounds too late.

    tell us all here after watching rounds 9,11 and 12 that canelo did as well as julio.

    thats the stupid shi-t.

    floyd couldve went 12 more rounds with canelo, easy.

    sergio, after round 12, was done.
     
  8. LoRd_inFamousX1

    LoRd_inFamousX1 Lord of the Square Rings Full Member

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    :deal
     
  9. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    this is the difference between the 2 fights....chavez was also starting to come on in the other late rounds.
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    It was basically the same except the 12tn round different. Now people here wont mention is canelo weigh 15 pounds more then mayweather on fight night while chavez jr weigh in like 25 or 30 pounds more then Martinez on fight night.<<So of course chavez will do more damange.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Sergio won his first 10 rounds off of Chavez with some of the most ease I've ever seen for a champion in a "big" fight. Mayweather/Alvarez had a good probably 4 close rounds, with Alvarez edging 2 on my card.
     
  12. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did what he could: keep eating punches and coming forward, and hoped Sergio would break, which he almost did. Canelo tried to box Floyd, was getting backed up early, and was mentally done by mid fight, probably before Judah.
     
  13. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bullsh*ts!
    Martinez vs Chavez has been an asbsolute WAR, thrilling in every round, and very balanced;
    while Mayweather vs Alvarez has been the usual snoozefest, with Alvarez standing still in front of Mayweather and Void too scared of let his hands go!
    Really, there are 13 years old kids that are more skilled than Alvarez... And more brave than Mayweather.
     
  14. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Alvarez weighed 10 pounds more than Void, unless they were of bones.
    They looked very similar sized, and Void is even taller.
     
  15. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Hope for his sake that he's trolling...

    Is that also a joke?

    Look at their waist and arms. Visible difference with Alvarez being a lot bigger.