Canelo vs Mayweather- don't get it twisted

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Peril, Aug 2, 2016.


  1. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    Some posters on here are saying Canelo "Stepped up" when he faced Floyd. They are sadly mistaken.

    Floyd was 36 at the time, stepping up to the Highest weight of his career . Just a year prior, he had a controversial fight against Cotto which some people thought Cotto won. His following fight with a durable but extremely limited Guererro further showed the begin of the decline in Mayweather.

    I distinctly remember the general consensus among boxing fans at the time. Many were praising Floyd (myself included) for taking on a young lion at near his absolute best (I consider Canelo to be prime NOW, at 25). Many have noticed that Mayweather has lost his mobility and he was a much more stationary target, as well his complete lack of punching power at the weight - shot Hatton aside, Floyd did not seem to do any damage to his opponents (I can feel how people's blood will boil at this statement but get the **** over it - Collazo ended Hatton).

    So just to recap: On one end we have a boxer who's best years were at 130-140 lbs, that seemingly had no pop in his punches at 147, let alone 152, pushing 37 and coming off two less than stellar performances and a stint in jail. He also has a huge name, incredible star power and warrants any of his opponents their highest purses to date.

    On the other hand, we have a 23 year old man entering the absolute prime of his career. Built as a natural middleweight, this man is considered to be a devastating puncher (he is not) and is young enough to recover from a loss, should one be inflicted upon him. He saw the opportunity of a lifetime and he took it.

    This wasn't some act of bravery. People saying "oh but he could have waited further" do not understand boxing. This is a "now or never" scenario that comes once in a lifetime and Canelo jumped on it. This involved NO RISK WHATSOEVER.

    1. He wasn't going to be hurt. Mayweather wrists have long ago rendered him fairly featherfisted.
    2. He was coming in at his best - 23 vs 36, we all know boxing is a young man's game
    3. He was coming in much closer to his natural weight. Canelo claims he is a natural 154 lb fighter - he came in at 152. Mayweather is arguably best at 135-140. 147 was not his best weight, let alone 152.
    4. He had the judges covered. 114-114 score still resonates in the hearts and minds of the boxing community as the most blatant and outrageous example of corruption in boxing. We can state with absolute certainty that should the fight have been competitive, i.e. 7-5 for either fighter, Canelo was going to get the nod.
    5. Last but not least, a loss would not hinder his career in the slightest. It was almost expected Canelo was going to lose, making this a win-win scenario.


    So there you have it. You can stop pushing the "He stepped up to Mayweather doe" argument. There was no step -up. Just a carefully calculated pounce that left Canelo a household name and without as much as bruise.:hi:
     
  2. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh boy now you done it! Canelo****s in 3.....2.....1.....
     
  3. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    It's a long post with many big words. They won't make though half of it. :rofl
     
  4. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Well put. How long will Canelo be considered "GREEN"? He was green against Mosley, he was green against Mayweather and now he is green against Golovkin.
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Canelo's just a helpless baby! :| A total basket case! Pisado!
     
  6. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The funny thing is that Mayweather and Canelo had about the same number of fights.
     
  7. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "against Cotto which few Cotto stans thought Cotto won."

    Anybody else saw Cotto doing what he usually does against decent/good boxers, lose.

    Sure he broke Fluid's nose, but Fluid is made of glass, in every fight he breaks something
     
  8. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    ODH is acting like a helicopter parent to an incompetent child. And his fans are the enablers.
     
  9. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    Yup. Pro for pro they were about the same. Since according to canelo fans, am ranks and achievement don't matter.
     
  10. Peril

    Peril The Scholar Full Member

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    I didn't think that Cotto won but you have to admit , Floyd looked beat up after that bout, and we don't usually see Floyd beat up.
     
  11. Quebec

    Quebec Poutine Full Member

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    Nobody outside of Cotto lovers or PBF haters thought Cotto won. Come on now, nothing controversial about that fight.
     
  12. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And lord knows El Flamingo Cotto has taken many lovers.
     
  13. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post Peril :thumbsup
     
  14. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Is this a GGG fan suckfest?
     
  15. elmaldito

    elmaldito Skillz Full Member

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    U lost me when you said cotto vs may was competitive. Cotto won 3 rounds.