Canelo vs Saunders confirmed for the 8th of may

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It may not be monster power but he hits hard enough yo make opponents think twice about throwing at him.

    When GGG was so reluctant to throw to the body vs Canelo I think that tells you everything you need to know about how hard Canelo hits.

    For me unless you can hit hard enough to stop Canelo moving forward you have no chance.
     
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  2. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think anybody said monster power but he clearly packs a punch and is very accurate with it. I think people are saying if he stops Saunders it would be and accumulation that break him down over time
     
  3. pow

    pow Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Kovalev, Jacobs, GGG, Kovalev all were landing on him and I see no reason why Saunders will not do the same. He will not get stage fright like the three stooges Yildrim, Smith and Fielding did. Canelo does the same thing every fight and will not bring anything new but what he does in the ring is to an exceptional standard. Saunders will not be looking to land power shots on him but get in and out and on the move like he did against Lemuix. Saunders will feed of that big fight atmosphere, he will make a mockery of the whole occasion rather than turn up with his autograph book like the three stooges (he was alluding to this in his interview with Koogs today).
     
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  4. murphman22

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    For me Saunders certainly has chances to be competitive against Canelo, without actually thinking he’ll win. He’s a very good boxer, with great fundamentals and high IQ. He’s not likely to stand there and just let Canelo walk into range like Smith and Yildrim. Smith stopped trying to use an effective jab after Round 1! There is an argument to say that Canelo forces his opponents to fight him and that’s true, but I think he’s recent foes have been tailored made.

    The biggest problem for me is that is BJS at 168. He’s a middleweight, in fact without knowing for sure, he looks to me like he should have been at 154 initially. There is nothing to suggest he should be at 168 other than it lets him do what he wants out of the ring. Conversely, Canelo is probably most comfortable at SM now. Plus BJS has a history of fading down the stretch even in his biggest fights - Eubank and Lee come to mind, not including some of the dreadful states he fought at in his WBO belt reigns against sub standard opposition. I have no confidence that he can hold the weight at 168, or that he has the stamina to fight against a elite level opponent for 12 rounds or that he’ll even bother to train properly. To be fair he looks in decent shape from recent pictures posted but who knows.

    Irrespective of the fact it could be impossible to get a decision out there and there is zero chance BJS can knock him out. I just struggle to see him being competitive at 168, while I think he does have the tools to cause Canelo problems. He won’t hold his feet and he has an excellent jab, understanding of range and good variation. But it wouldn’t be a shock to see Canelo walk him down and iron him out in 6. It really depends on what shape BJS is in and if can hold the weight.
     
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  5. channy

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    BJS has the skills and awkwardness to possibly steal a decision, will he get that decision though, that is the question.
     
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  6. kojak

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    I love the levels of glass, proven glass and legendary glass!
     
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  7. Twentyman

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    Canelo fought Lara 7 years ago. Even the Khan fight was 5 years ago. Canelo is not the same fighter today that he was then. Just because he wasn't comfortable against a mover in Lara or the speed of Khan doesn't really matter, it was years ago. There is no chink in his armour. The improvement is incredible. His ring IQ is insanely good. He is so difficult to land clean on, and when they do he tends to ride the shot.

    He does lose rounds but it tends to be as a result of the greater plan much like Mayweather when he'd download what his opponent has got, adapted accordingly and then broke them down.

    Even the difference between the first and second GGG fight is apparent. That was the most obvious step in his evolution for me. Before that 2nd fight he had a tendency to move backwards and counter punch. He comes back in the second fight, held centre ring and fought on the front foot and has stuck to that since.

    Saunders can nick a round or two much the same way Bellew nicked the first few rounds against Usyk. It will be part of the bigger plan to eat into his gas tank...that's proper ring IQ.
     
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  8. EJC83

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    I think the fact that this was all agreed for 10 weeks time before he stepped into the ring with the Turkish punchbag last night tells you a lot about what threat Alvarez thinks or thought Yildrim and BJS pose. We can try and hype up Saunders all we went but, as we all know, there are levels to this game and at 168 Alvarez will have Saunders number. There is no way that Saunders will stop him with his style and no way that he will stay elusive all fight, he's going to get hit more than he's ever been hit before in a boxing ring and if he makes it to the latter rounds it will prove telling as the gas tank will be emptying and Alvarez will keep on coming for him.
     
  9. nurological

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    Also Lara then was a far better boxer than Saunders has ever been.
     
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  10. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Even in the Khan fight where people were getting excited with Khan's speed I could see after 2 rounds Canelo was basically working him out and hitting body shots to slow Khan down.
     
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  11. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lemuix says it all. Lemuix is nowhere near the level of Canelo and Saunders can try and get in and out all he wants but the big difference is Canelo won't just follow Saunders around the ring. He will cut off the ring and Saunders will have to work so hard trying to move from Canelo that this alone will use up energy and I see Saunders being gassed after 5-6 rounds.
     
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  12. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree with this. I get the feeling that Saunders fighting at 168 is more down to not having to put the necessary work in to fight at 160lbs. We certainly didn't see anything to suggest Saunders outgrew 160lbs.
     
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  13. Patter983

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    Canelo will walk through Saunders pretty convincingly I think , Saunders has had to many meaningless fights to have had any chance here . You can’t go from fighting the likes of Martin Murray semi retired version to fighting canelo. I think canelo stops him within 9 rounds.
     
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  14. Patter983

    Patter983 Active Member Full Member

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    Spot on , Khan looks like a million dollars against everyone he faces take away Prescott for two three rounds , just for the fact the opponent has never seen anything like it before they are adapting on the job.
     
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  15. pow

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    Billy is a natural super middleweight and has fought at light heavyweight, people seem to have this idea he is small at middleweight he was actually big at middleweight. No chance he makes light middle as one poster suggested. Let me make this clear I do not think Sanders will win but I do think he goes the distance, people are getting carried away with Canelo's recent wins but in reality he has been managed very carefully with well picked opponents.
     
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