Canelo's odds of defeating the four kings at middleweight?

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  1. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Come on Olu :ohno
     
  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    How would it be fun for Canelo?
     
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  3. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo loses to all 4, we're talking best versions. Hagler destroys Canelo by 10th round TKO. Hearns? if Canelo thought Bivols jab controlled that fight Tommy's will have him blinded and wary of his right hand dropping a UD or knockout isn't out of the realm. Tommy would be the most powerful puncher he ever faced. Duran isn't giving up that much in size is he? What's Canelo 5'8'? Canelo would get a college education on infighting and defense. Canelo might go the distance though. Sugar Ray? He'd outbox Canelo and take a close UD in a not to entertaining fight. I think this one could be the closest of the 4 oddly enough
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo beats all 4. Look what he did to GGG. I doubt any of them could beat up GGG like Canelo did 2x then dominate him in the 3rd fight. GGG was the most feared Middleweight of our generation and Canelo had his way with him. SRL, Hearns and Duran were natural welterweights. Hearns can be KO'd, Canelo has the power to stop him and hurt him. SRL would get knocked down multiple times with flash KDs like he did in the Hearns rematch. Duran is harder to predict. Hagler is a close fight but Canelo is definitely capable of beating all 4.
     
  5. BCS8

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    I knew Shadow was going to weigh in on this. He did not disappoint :D
     
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  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo beat up GGG? I must have missed those fights.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can post some post-fight pics if you want reminding.
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well it's obvious what certain poster has Canelo beating all 4, I'm not really gonna go into that. But I think a fair assessment would be Canelo definitely loses to Hagler. Whilst the other 3 would be more debatable, as all 3 were a bit hit and miss above their respected weightclasses.

    I would say if Duran, Leonard, Hearns, were at their absolute best. I'm talking the Leonard that out pointed Hagler at Middleweight, Hearns that destroyed Shuler at Middleweight, and the Duran that gave Hagler a good fight or beat Barkley at Middleweight. Then I'd favour those performances to beat Canelo.

    But as I said being fair an objective, considering 3 of those fighters at Middleweight wasn't their best weightclass. You'd have to think maybe Canelo could pick up a win not sure who against though.
     
  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Let's examine Canelo for a second, after he got schooled by a 140 pounder Floyd Mayweather fighting at 154 pounds he then got a gift decision over Erislandy Lara who most thought clearly beat him. Then he fought another 140 pounder with a weak chin Amir Khan. After beating another 140-147 pound fighter in Cotto, who was 4-4 in his last 8 fights ,and to AVOID FIGHTING Golovkin he gave up his belt and moved back down to 154 fighting Liam Smith. After a fiasco with a 168 pound Chavez he figured GGG was properly aged and with his Mexican tainted meat he'd have a shot. However every poll did on this site has always had GGG as the winner of the 1st fight. I thought Canelo won the second fight as Gennady was clearly diminished. By the way ,these fantasy matchups would never happen, Canelo ducked 33 year old GGG, you think he'd get in the ring with a 29 year old Hagler? only if he was brought into the ring in handcuffs. The thought of Alvarez taking on a 25 year old Tommy Hearns at 154 or 160 would require the same roid treatments , and if Floyd schooled him then a naturally bigger Ray would too. Duran? Canelo would start to resemble Davy Moore around the 10th round and he'd have to hang on to hear the cards. Honestly, what is Canelo's best win or effort at 160 to make you'd think he'd beat these fighters at their best? A gift draw? A disputed decision over the same past it middleweight?
     
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  10. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think anyone considers them the 4 middleweight kings. They may be kings of their era but that isn't restricted to the middleweight division where some didn't shine as bright as they did in other divisions.
     
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  11. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It would be a good fight for the fans, all high paced action,

    It's not always about if the fighter wins, you are able to enjoy the Fighter's efforts & the fight he put in back & fourth exchanges regardless,

    That's what's missing in todays times with fighters being obsessed with the humiliation that comes along with a loss.
     
  12. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought the EXACT same thing, Fogger. Cheers
     
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  13. joebojoejoeson

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    Canelo couldn't be 130 pound Floyd Mayweather. Most people think he lost to Austin Trout and Lara. Canelo loses to each of the 4 guys mentioned. You could also add people like Julian Jackson, Mike McCallum and tons of other guys from that era beat Canelo.
     
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  14. Tockah

    Tockah Ingo's Bingo Full Member

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    Canelo v GGG III was a tremendous let down and snooze-fest, if we are in the midst of Canelo's prime then I want out cause this is lame as hell. A weathered Hearns from Leonard v Hearns II would be Canelo on his best day.
     
  15. ShanannaGator11

    ShanannaGator11 "She said I could." Full Member

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    Best for Best, Duran makes him quit on his stool
     
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