Canelo's Trainer Denies Fight Fixing And Draining Opponents (LOL)

If he was worried about getting the most $$ possible then he wouldn't have agreed to the rehydration clause. That ending up costing him a lot of $$.

I get that, but at the same time there's a difference between having a rehydration clause at 160 vs having one at 175, and you also need to consider if the fighter he's fighting has a history of rehydrating a lot.

I get your point about Canelo's team insisting on them now where it suit him, like vs Fielding or vs Kovalev, but at the same time vs Jacobs it was at 160 where he (Canelo) would probably also benefit from not having a rehydration limit as well and the fact that Jacobs made the 10 lb rehydration limit vs Derevyanchenko. I mean some people don't think Canelo should even return to 160 at this point, that he, like Jacobs, is better at 168. So if that's the case, then Canelo would have been affected by it also when he fought Jacobs.

Now I do think it would have affected Jacobs more than Canelo had Jacobs made it but the fact is that Jacobs ignored it and suffered financial penalties as a result. But in terms of who was at a functional advantage on fight night that was clearly Jacobs. Canelo whooped his ass while Jacobs didn't even come close to making the rehydration limit. So regardless of which team insisted on there being a rehyrdation limit, it doesn't change the fact that Jacobs still ended up coming in well over that limit and Jacobs, not Canelo, ended up having a huge functional weight advantage on the night.

So you can complain about Canelo's team insisting on that rehydration clause vs Jacobs all you want, but don't tell me Jacobs was at some sort of a functional weight disadvantage on the night. Jacobs was able to have a huge functional weight advantage vs Canelo due to the IBF rule change that gave Jacobs preferential treatment to begin with, and he still got schooled. I think you get this point and I'd appreciate your acknowledging of this.

 

Canelo is on special fuel called Clen which is good gas as it gives more than enough juice to last the trip twice.

 

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If the weight clause had no meaning, then again, why did Canelo insist on it? Given that Jacobs is over 180 on fight night when he rehydrates how he wants then I think its fairly obvious that limiting his water intake affected his performance. He was thinking about every drop and how much it was costing him.

 

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So you agree that Canelo has gotten four gifts then.....

Oh the ownage is strong in this thread.

 

He was thinking about every drop and how much it was costing him, and then proceeded to not even COME CLOSE to making 170 the next morning AFTER successfully making 170 for his previous bout vs Derevyanchenko?

 

Sure. Rehydrating normally he'd be way over those weights.

 

You wrote a lot of words to excuse the fact that Canelo's team insisted on a rehydration clause.

End of the day, Canelo takes a lot of heat for his weight shenanigans and he continues to insist on them. They clearly know the fans don't like these clauses, as they tried to hide the Kovalev one until a couple days before the fight.

 

OK I see what you're saying. Vs GGG he didn't even attend the morning after weigh-in right?

Maybe you have a point there, though I think that's speculation as to what he would have weighed if he would have participated in it vs GGG. Maybe he would have weighed 175 or 176 who knows but what I'm saying is he didn't have to struggle like he did vs Derevyanchenko when it was required.

And again keep this in mind : It's still an IBF rule, it was just waived for unification fights to "accommodate" Jacobs so to speak. Lost in all of this is the fact that Jacobs was getting preferential treatment by the IBF. I mean had there been no rehydration limit vs Derevyanchenko, for example, wouldn't that have been unfair to Derevyanchenko?

Regardless of whether the IBF mandates its own rule to be used in unification matches, in principle do you agree with its purpose, that somebody like Jacobs shouldn't be allowed to freely rehydrate? Like when Jacobs bypassed the rehydration limit, vs GGG, what was your reaction to that? Did you feel that that gave Jacobs an unfair advantage vs GGG?

 

Do you agree or disagree in principle with the IBF rule which mandates that a fighter has to be within 10 lbs the morning of the fight or they can't fight for their title?

Was it fair in your mind that Jacobs wasn't allowed to fight for the IBF when he refused to weigh-in the morning of the fight for GGG?

 

I don't really care about limiting rehydration. Canelo blew up like a zeppelin at 154 rehydrating and if he could do it, more power to him I guess, even though he's a much better fighter at higher weights. Jacobs should be allowed to rehydrate as much as he wants. What annoyed me with the GGG fight is that Golovkin was weight drained and he was not.

 

We call it "the wall of Text" or BS...

 

See, I totally agree with you here. I was never a fan of rehydration limits to begin with. And I be honest with you, I'd prefer that there was't one for Canelo Kovalev. (for one it takes away from Canelo's win, gives people like you excuses, etc) However when the IBF title is on the line for unifications, like with Jacobs, I think of it a little differently. With Jacobs history of blowing up in weight after making weight, and with the accusations by you and others that Canelo rehydrates a lot.

So there's a difference in my mind with there being one for Canelo Jacobs after what Jacobs did vs GGG and with his making it for Derevyanchenko. And with Kovalev, though he struggled to make 175, he was never known to rehydrate a lot so in that case I think it's just something to use as an excuse rather than having substance to it like it clearly is in the case of Jacobs.

 

The difference between the two fights is Canelo insisted on a rehydration clause (and now claiming he doesn't dehydrate opponents) and GGG didn't.

We're not talking about GGG vs Jacobs, we are talking about Canelo vs Jacobs.

 

The two are directly related, because it was Jacobs failure to participate in the weigh-in vs GGG that resulted in the IBF rule change which allowed Jacobs to bypass it vs Canelo and still fight for the IBF title.

Also draining your opponent and dehydrating your opponent are two different things. If you claim that Canelo team's insisting on a rehydration clause for Jacobs dehydrated him, then you'd have to believe that the IBF dehydrates fighters who fight for their titles by not allowing fighters who weigh in more than 10 lbs over the next morning to fight for the IBF title.

Obviously Jacobs has issues with limiting the amount that he rehydrates and I want to be clear that I prefer there not be rehydration clauses in general. However to say that Jacobs was put at a weight disadvantage due to Team Canelo's actions is a gross exaggeration. Both Canelo and Jacobs have been accused of rehydrating a lot throughout their career, so both would be affected somewhat by a rehydration clause after making 160. It's something that both fighters should be able to manage, and frankly for Jacobs to have such a problem with this is very unusual. Both teams came to an agreement to have a second day weigh-in as is normally the case when the IBF title was on the line. Jacobs claim that Canelo's team insisted on it is just him saying that. We have no idea if Jacobs or his team made any effort to counter-offer Canelo's team and insist that there wouldn't be a rehydration clause. For all we know Jacobs didn't think he would have a problem with it, maybe he thought it would help his chances to limit how much Canelo could rehydrate to.

 

Has anyone ever told you that your posts have very dark intentions to them?