Cant for the life of me understand how Usyk not p4p #1

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  1. tinman

    tinman Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Last night was another illustration of an exposed fighter. Like I've been saying all along Spence is overrated. And Porter gave us proof that Spence is a protected fighter and didnt not show p4p talent against a decent, but common man fighter in Porter.

    Meanwhile Usyk has dominated and cleaned out one of the most talent rich divisions in the sport. He totally dominated the best guys.

    And Spence and Crawford or hell even Loma should be p4p?

    Not a chance in hell. To be the best you got to beat the best. It's the oldest adage in boxing and it never dies.
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 The Mercurial Mephistophelean Malcontent Staff Member

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    In an unbiased, less myopic, less provincial and far more rational sport, he would be.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly if you cut out the politics, nationalism, drawing power, divisional prestige, etc. Then Usyk being p4p 1 is the only logical conclusion.
     
  4. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Member Full Member

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    Usyk did take the 0 of three in-prime champions so there's no argument there really.
     
  5. Henry Hank

    Henry Hank New Member Full Member

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    Usyk is the baddest dude in boxing not only has he beat the best guys in one if not the best division in boxing but more impressive is that he has beat them in their hometown.

    After he gets done with Spong he will go to every HW titlist hometown and whoop their ass, no matter if its Joshua in England, Ruiz in Mexico, Wilder in Tuscaloosa or Fury in his gipsy trailer park they will all get beat by a soon to be ATG and one of the baddest mother****ers in boxing history.
     
  6. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    I think it begins/ends with nobody knowing who he is.
     
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  7. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Active Member Full Member

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    Yep. Bellew, Gassiev and Breidis. It doesn't get any better than that. He's beaten all 3 of them, the best 3 cruiserweights he could have possibly faced. AND he faced them, all three of them, IN A ROW, one after the other. No warm-ups, no cherrypicking. And even better, he fought all three away from home.

    Nobody can deny usyk. If he's not number 1 p4p, he's number 2. And if he's not number 2, then the person in question needs to get their eyes checked. Loma has also now proved himself and he is the only one who people can argue to be above Usyk, simply because Rigo, Russell and Campbell is I'd say on par with Bellew, Gassiev and Breidis.
     
  8. chico g

    chico g Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Needs step up and win against some of these huge behemoths first. Can't keep riding on his cruiserweight achievements. Needs to stop with these phony injuries, and actually fight a heavyweight.
     
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  9. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member Full Member

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    I for one find him to be highly overrated. I am not a huge Canelo fight, but Usyk's resume in no way compares to even that of Canelo....

    also until he actually moves up in weight successfully and beats some decent guys at HW, no sense in running out and giving him P4p status. Just keep calling him the best cruiser. P4p should be reserved for guys who successfully compete in more than one weight class.

    Of course if you wanna crown him, then crown his #$$.
     
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  10. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Canelo resume
    Wins over past prime Cotto and close win over Jacobs

    Losses to Mayweather, GGG x2, Lara, Trout.

    His resume is good but he fell short in most of his big fights
     
  11. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Member Full Member

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    Ive said it too, hes legitimately cleaned out his division against excellent comp, played with fighters that destroy other fighters..He is number 1, whether hes known by the wider boxing audience is irrelevant, it only really concerns educated fans and what boxers have achieved and the answer is Usyk.
     
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    Somali Sanil Member Full Member

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    Mayweather Lara and Trout imo were before he hit his prime. Hes a better fighter since the Mayweather fight that's for sure
     
  13. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member Full Member

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    I don't know if you know this, but Canelo is actually 1-0-1 against GGG...a guy all the experts and fan boys picked to walk Canelo down and knock him out
     
  14. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member Full Member

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    Damn right im a Wilder....I'm still not running around giving the man top p4p status
     
  15. Oakland Billy Smith

    Oakland Billy Smith Active Member Full Member

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    Conversely i would say that is precisely why people like you rate him so highly.
     


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