Cards as of the stoppage in Pacquiao vs. Marquez IV

Official cards:

Adelaide Byrd 47-46 Pacquiao
Steve Weisfeld 47-46 Pacquiao
John Keane 47-46 Pacquiao


Press row/industry experts:

Dan Rafael (ESPN) 47-46 Marquez
Kevin Iole (Yahoo sports) 48-45 Pacquiao
Brian Mazique (bleacherreport) 48-45 Pacquiao
Harold Lederman (HBO) 48-45 Pacquiao
Ryan Bivins (sweetboxing) 47-46 Marquez
Bernard Osuna (ESPN) 47-46 Pacquiao
Bryan Graham (SI) 47-46 Marquez
Rafael Brito (Univision) 47-46 Marquez


Fan cards:

IntentionalButt 47-46 Marquez
Rock0052 47-46 Pacquiao
miniq 47-47 even
janeschicken 47-46 Pacquiao
Robney 47-46 Pacquiao
MichiganWarrior 47-47 even
igor_otsky 48-45 Pacquiao
qwert 47-46 Pacquiao
bballchump11 47-47 even
stillth3sameg 47-46 Marquez
ArseBandit 48-46 Pacquiao
des3995 47-46 Pacquiao
daallo 47-46 Marquez
Divi253 47-46 Pacquiao
PeteThePrince 48-46 Pacquiao
Two Shakes 47-46 Pacquiao
Doc 47-46 Marquez
PinoyProdigy 47-46 Pacquiao
Jack 48-45 Pacquiao
SouthpawJab 48-45 Pacquiao
jeffjoiner 47-46 Pacquiao
KnuckleUp99 48-45 Pacquiao
Drew101 47-46 Marquez
Scar 47-46 Pacquiao
jmmpbf 48-45 Pacquiao
orriray59 47-47 even
Elite 47-46 Pacquiao
stevebhoy87 47-46 Marquez
lewishamboy 47-46 Pacquiao
Jak Boxer 48-45 Pacquiao
SJS19 47-46 Pacquiao
Florez 47-46 Pacquiao
KERRIGAN 48-45 Pacquiao
thejokerswild 47-46 Pacquiao
puga_ni_nana 47-46 Pacquiao
box247 47-46 Pacquiao
Nonito Smoak 47-46 Pacquiao
Beenie 47-46 Pacquiao
Elliott 47-46 Marquez
divac 47-46 Marquez
davebenoit 47-46 Pacquiao
4Rounder 47-46 Pacquiao
JMP 47-46 Pacquiao
illwill007 47-46 Pacquiao
lobk 47-46 Pacquiao
bkl12 47-46 Pacquiao
Ringnut 47-46 Pacquiao
Collie 48-45 Pacquiao
Miguel 47-46 Pacquiao
Zopilote 47-46 Pacquiao
Smokin' Joe 47-46 Pacquiao
theboy_racrer 47-46 Pacquiao
Rumsfeld 47-46 Pacquiao
cuchulain 47-46 Pacquiao
PBFred 47-46 Pacquiao
Bad Boyz 47-47 even
??? 47-46 Pacquiao
JASPER 47-46 Pacquiao

***more to be added***


RBR summary breakdown

1 - Close, feeling out session, tit for tat. Neither established themselves, and they made each other miss a fair amount while each got a sense of what the other was bringing to the table - but if you pay attention to the connected body shots they tilted it numerically in Marquez's favor.
10-9 Marquez.

2 - Clearly Pacquiao's, moved around too much for Marquez to land on and got in a couple of nice straight lefts. Pacquiao's speed and timing getting his shots off were significantly greater as Marquez fanned several times.
19-19 even.

3 - Pacquiao down. Automatic 10-8 for Marquez. Pacquiao was actually doing well before the knockdown, continuing his rhythm from the 2nd. Marquez was biding his time and found the sweet spot. Pacquiao recovered quickly but was clearly rattled.
29-27 Marquez.

4 - Clearly Marquez's. The right hand continued to dominate, although he surprised and bothered Pacquiao at one point with a rapier left jab as Pacquiao was jumping in.
39-36 Marquez

5 - Marquez down. Automatic 10-8 for Pacquiao. It would have been Pacquiao's even without the knockdown, which itself wasn't the most authoritative (far less so than Marquez's in the 3rd) - just Marquez scrabbling at the ground to retain his balance after drifting into a left with one foot unglued from the canvas. After the knockdown, they went to war and swapped bombs with Pacquiao getting the slight better but Marquez having moments.
47-46 Marquez.

6 - Incomplete. Would have been Pacquiao's round had the KO not come. The left was doing damage. He was literally one second away from tying it up on my card at 56-56.


Add your own score and, preferably, break down your RBR justifications. :good

 

From the RBR thread

 

So, 47-46 Pacquiao?

 

So, you had it 47-47 at the time of the stoppage?

 

If you post in here, include your card at the time of the stoppage somewhere in your post.

edit: thank you janeschicken and Robney. :good

 

I think if we look at the non-knockdown rounds, it's pretty clear to everyone that Pacquiao took the 2nd and Marquez the 4th.

Those weird cards that have 48-45 for Pacquiao mean that in 1-5 they only gave Marquez the 3rd with the 10-8 for the knockdown. :huh How they could possibly have given Pacquiao the 4th, I have no idea. It was as clear for Marquez as the 2nd was for Pacquiao.


So the only real debate is the 1st.

I'd love to hear detailed arguments from people who scored it for either. I know it was a tough one to score, as they were evenly matched and the action hadn't really come up to a full boil yet. I'm just curious to see what people's rationale was for leaning one way or the other based on what action there was.

 

So 50-44 Pacquiao for BE.