Carl Froc refers to Las Vegas as a "neutral" venue

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  1. ShaneTheSherrif

    ShaneTheSherrif Active Member Full Member

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    Iv always thought of Vegas as fair considering its the top venue. I just cant remember if Lewis v Holyfield was in Vegas?

    A Froch versus Ward final in Vegas with Steve 'No more baby' Smoger as ref:thumbsup
     
  2. TommyV

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    I agree that Ward should be made to fight Abraham in Germany, but the problem is it can't/won't happen now, it's too late. There's not really anyway they could justify it when Ward is the top seed and Abraham the bottom yet they give him home territory, and also the fact that both semi's were contractually obliged to be happening in the US.

    They missed the chance to make Ward travel. They gave him a home-fight in his first fight, and unforseen circumstances have pitted him against another American fighter, giving him a chance to fight at home again, and a fighter who's home fight would be in Cameroon :)lol:) or Australia, where they can't draw either, so it had to happen in the US again, giving Ward another chance to fight at home.

    To be honest, they should have seen something like this happening. It was poorly organized and poorly thought out. I mean they had Ward down after Kessler to fight two American fighters anyway so he might have argued for and won home advantage even if he fought both Taylor & Dirrell. They should have made him travel for that first fight.
     
  3. TommyV

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    MSG mate.
     
  4. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well put,Tommy.But the reality is that nobody took Ward seriously before the tournament as he was considered too green.Remember that Kessler(the fighter I personally thought would win the tourney) was the fav going in,and Abraham(even though he's since been exposed twice) was the dark horse due to his power.Nobody(me included) thought Ward had a chance.
     
  5. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Every nation is patriotic. Sure the United States is because we are involved in something that is sold to the people. People have died and still are (on all sides) since this War on Terror thing started. Add to that the fact that The US is still young and has came up with help from people from alot of different Nations. That's why some people are patriotic just like other nations have thier reasons. Still not liking a fighter because of where he is from is some BS and those people are what makes the world suck sometimes.

    Still as far as boxing goes. People are more likely to cheer for people from thier region. You can't find an american poster who doesn't like some foriegn fighters. You can find alot of foriegn posters who don't like American Fighters though. Besides giving Floyd Mayweather his due because they have no choice, they go on to downplay every other American fighter.

    In this day and age where alot of the world hates America, I would never fight in Europe. The Men hate us and the women love us. Sadly it's the men that are there cheering everytime the Euro fighter misses. I would only consider a neutral territory that has past with the nations fighter I was fighting. For example fighting fighting German in France might be OK but I don't know if I would go that far

    In the US fighting ward anywhere besides Cali is fine. Depending on what nationality a fighter coming into america is, they might have an american fan base if the nationality is one that is somewhat tight knit in the US and keeps up with thier homelands media.

    Lastly, anytime the two fighters or someone on the outside makes nationality an issue than you will see people at the fight waving flags regardless of where the fight is being held.
     
  6. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Right.Like Dave Parriss in Hatton-Tszyu,Barrera-Khan and Rogan-Sexton 1.
     
  7. Rumsfeld

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    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=25967&more=1

    Excerpt from the Carl Froch Interview:

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    On whether he would be willing to fight Andre Ward in Oakland if they meet in the Super Six Finals:

    “No, I don’t think that would be fair. It wouldn’t be fair for me to go to his hometown to fight him the same way it wouldn’t be fair for him to come to Nottingham to fight me. It needs to be somewhere like Las Vegas or somewhere neutral where no one has home crowd advantage.”

    His views on potentially facing Andre Ward somewhere in America should they meet in the finals:

    “I think I’ve got to fight him in America. That’s the rules on the Super Six World Boxing Classic contract. The finals and the semi-finals take place state-side. So I’m expecting to fight Ward in America, but I can assure you it won’t be Oakland.”
     
  8. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Just briefly how does Carl Froch Catch Andre Ward.. He couldn't even catch Dirrell unless it was with a Bodyslam or a rabbit punch.. Ward has speed and heart, has elbows, head and shoulder too.. Once Ward gets comfortable he see everything comming and Froch telegraphs all his ploding punches.. Ward is going to time that **** and embaress old Frochy..


    Love the quote but he doen't quite sound like the Mad Rapper..

    Carl is hitting air all night.. aginst Ward and really thats if the both of them get through thier next fights..
     
  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vegas will cheat for the criminal SOB Ward!
     
  10. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    End of the day Ward is an overated ******. Froch will destroy him
     
  11. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You have marvelous insight and such a way with words.
     
  12. Jay23

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    And you just come across as a *****.
     
  13. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    at the end of the day, you're opinion of the matchup would be completely different if froch never fought abraham:deal

    its easy to look good against someone who A) has no defensive skills what so ever and B) doesn't fight back. froch is a great fighter no doubt, but his fanboys have overrated him beyond ridiculous proportions because of this fight.
     
  14. lefthook89

    lefthook89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    seriously man just move to somewhere in europe and get gangbanged by a bunch of european men, dont even call yourself american.
     
  15. Auracle21

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    farmboxer def aint america. he might be illegal.