Carl Froch in Showtimes SuperMiddleweight Tournament, a shot in the arm for boxing !!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Guy, Jul 4, 2009.


  1. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    He might mean the MW tournament that made Hopkins undisputed champion.
     
  2. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    It was mainly the middleweight championship series I was referring to.
     
  3. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    I'd totally forgotten that that series of fights was a "tournament"!! I suppose with 3 fights its at least realistically doable.
     
  4. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    It was officially referred to as the middleweight championship series. The problem with this proposed tournament, besides the complicated round robin stage, is that it doesn't have a definitive means. It's the right idea but needs tweaking in my opinion.
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    As someone else has said, the problem with round robin with boxing is that you are probably going to end up with some fights that niether the fans, the TV or either of the fighters want to happen.

    Elimination is the way to go. Split the current titlists up, have them defend against the guys you want to introduce to the tournament and go from there with unification fights.
     
  6. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In essence, I like this idea. There are some fights that might become pointless by the end, though. Like Gaz says, this needs to be an all out elimination tournament. If that happens then that would be amazing.
     
  7. dan-b

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    If it could be squared with the sanctioning bodies then the winner would come out of it with two title belts and recognition as consensus number one. If Bute doesn't want to be involved then that's his choice. The sentiment I'm getting from everyone is that they like the idea but it should be elimination. Sounds good to me.
     
  8. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think this format is a bit over ambitious and doesn't work for boxing. It would be better if they stuck in Allan Green and Karoly Balzsay (provided he beats Stieglitz) to make it an 8 man knock out competition. And with a format like that it would be easier for the winner to hold on to all the belts.

    Carl Froch - Andre Ward (#1 in the WBC Rankings) - WBC Title
    Karoly Balzsay - Andre Dirrell (#2 WBO Rankings) - WBO Title
    Mikkel Kessler - Allan Green/Gusmyl Perdomo (Kessler would lose his WBA Title unless you switched Green with Perdomo) - For WBA Title if Perdomo or For the #1 spot for either the WBC or the WBO Title
    Arthur Abraham - Jermain Taylor - For the #1 WBC Spot

    Then in the next round you could have
    Froch/Ward Winner V Kessler/Green or Perdomo Winner
    Balzsay/Dirrell Winner V Abraham/Taylor Winner

    The only reason I didn't include the Winner of Bute/Andrade is because if I we're to use one of those two it would push the tournament back until December at the earliest. What do you think would this format be an improvement?

    Maybe they could do another tournament (similair to the Super Middle. Tournament they did a few years ago) involving all the frige contenders to make a #1 WBC, WBO & WBA Contender for the winner to face so they can have their mandatory set. This would give them an opponent that would be accepted by Showtime and if they come through that they can face other fighters who we're elimanted from the Tournament, Kelly Pavlik, Lucian Bute etc.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    WTF? Where did you get this madcap idea?
     
  10. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's been kicking around on a few threads all day, mate. Still nothing official but I really like the idea. I'll copy what Gaz said again- if it was a straight up elimination tourny then that would be brilliant.
     
  11. JIM KELLY

    JIM KELLY Bullshyt Mr Han Man! Full Member

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    remember the failed HW tourney, that looked fun, not your usual tourney, it was like 4 a round bout!
     
  12. Tony Bellew

    Tony Bellew Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Too many managers, Too many promoters, Too many trainers!! All these imputs!! Who get's what?? It's far too much to expect!! I could believe something like the Don King middlweight tournament cos they were all under 1 banner in Hopkins,Trinidad,Joppy and Holmes BUT there's just no way all them promoters could come together and agree money plus everything else that comes into it..

    Sorry guys but if this happens as was printed above I'll walk through the next big boxing show completly naked:happy:admin:happy
     
  13. dan-b

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    ^ Hopkins most certainly wasn't with Don King before the tournament. Hopkins' persistence and the fact King thought he had his number with Trinidad was the reason that tournament got put on.
     
  14. Broxi

    Broxi Stand With Ukraine Full Member

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    Who the hell wouldn't want to watch that fight.

    It would be unbelievable to have this happen but the fact that most reckon it would be impossible to pull off says a lot about what's wrong in the sport.
     
  15. Kid Lucky

    Kid Lucky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There's too many variables and vested interests to make this happen and not enough money from a TV network to compensate. Shame.