Carl Froch is a one time flash in the pan

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Solid Chin, Jul 19, 2009.


  1. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Thats a pretty bold statement considering that Dirrel has never been the championship distance, and has only done 10 once.
     
  2. dom in sweden

    dom in sweden Member Full Member

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    What I like about Froch is he his a real hard ******* who is making the most of his talent. So no, he's no flash in the pan because he will always give 100% and whoever beats him is going to have to fight hard. I don't think Dirrel has enough (from what I've seen), Kessler is a different animal tho.
     
  3. elguapo

    elguapo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mayweather Sr. did say Dirrell was putting a whipping on chad dawson in sparring, back when Mayweather sr was chads trainer!!!
     
  4. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Who gives ****. Just give the guy props for stepping up to the plate, whether he has limitations as a fighter is irrelevant. You got to respect him for not backing down and taking on the best. Froch is a topman.
     
  5. ed7890

    ed7890 Col. Hunter Gathers Full Member

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    I only seen the Pascal and Taylor fights now, but I think he's better than he showed in the Taylor fight. He didn't look confident at all at the start and was playing catch up then and he knew it. I'd think we could see better performances from him.
     
  6. clyde

    clyde Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Froch vs. Abraham is a fight that I would/will pay to watch....can't wait for that one.

    I'm not getting all mushy here, but there was something about the ending of the Taylor fight that just pushed my buttons. I get the feeling that Froch is turning into one of those guys that I will forgive/ignore his deficiences because I respect his guts.

    You just can't beat that nervy excitement you get from a guy like Froch.....you never will really know what's coming next in his fights.
     
  7. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Froch isn't as limited as people make out, and he definitely packs a punch. He is accurate, which makes up (a little) for what is a shocking lack os speed at the elite level - as someone else posted, I think he's slowed down a bit, but a fighter's peak is really about 28 (by and large), so he's probably past his peak. Injuries have probably taken their toll.

    Also, whoever said Froch is/will be overconfident is a bit barmy. If you look at the Taylor fight, he basically froze. Nerves was a massive factor against Froch in the ams, and it came back to haunt him big in the first half of the Taylor fight (by far the biggest fight since probably the quarters of the 2001 world ams). It wasn't just Taylor slowing down, it was Froch not fighting for a few rounds at the start.

    I think that the Taylor fight should help him get over his nerves in time for this tournament.

    Froch is one of those fighters who will get some crazy wins you'd never see coming, but could easily lose against the same opponent another night. As it stands, though, I don't see him being stopped - possibly by his corner between rounds, but not properly hammered to the ground.

    Btw, I think he stops Dirrell, purely because I think this tournament has come a good year too early for him.
     
  8. One Round

    One Round Hertfordshire's Finest Full Member

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    There's no prizes for guessing that a man with speed and accuracy is going to land alot on a relatively slow fighter with a poor defense. Dirrell will obviously get rounds under his belt, but what will decide the fight is how Dirrell handles the kind of pressure and power one of the strongest, determined and mentally tough men at SMW throws back at him. Since Dirrell's not been tested against that calibre of opponent, or gone 12 rounds, I don't know how people can speak with the confidence that they're doing about a Dirrell win.
     
  9. MiracleMan

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    I expect Carl to stop Dirrell, but its a very dangerous match up. Fast hands, against a guy who is really tough.
     
  10. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Funny that is how you chose to refer to Robin Reid. Why not refer to him as a former WBC champion who made three succesful defences of his title? Or as a former olympic bronze medalist? Or as a guy who was robbed blind by a cheating ref and an equally complicit Sven Ottke in a shockingly farcical WBA/IBF 'title' fight. Or as that guy who Gary Shaw ****ed about, providing zero training facilities ahead of the Lacy/Reid fight? Or the guy who Jeff Lacy punched in the balls, and after the bell?
    ESB's James Slater himself made reference to the fact that Reid's career wouldn't have petered out as it did so disappointingly if he was declared victorious against Ottke as he deserved to be.
    If you wanted to undermine Froch's win why didn't you just point out that Reid was shot to pieces, and had been for quite some time.
    I'm sorry if this is wildly of topic, but that remark really got to me.
     
  11. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Co-sign, Reid was a worl class fighter in his prime and IMO beat Calzaghe and Otkke on points. He would have destroyed that American hype job Lacy if he was a few years younger. To be fair to Froch he was always saying in pre and post fight interviews that Reid was past his best but Reid called him out so he had to beat him down.
     
  12. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. Reid was past his best when he faced Lacy, but he wasn't hepled by Lacy's repeated low blows, (which Rob admittedly began to counter with some roughhousing of his own), and yet another hometown ref.
    To be honest that was the story of his career after he lost his title - hometown refs conspiring against him.
     
  13. clyde

    clyde Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That fight really was a sickener....a stain on the sport.

    No doubt that Reid was good in his day, it's just a shame that with things winding down for him, he was desperate/foolish enough to agree to the terms and conditions of the Ottke fight. Brave but foolish.
     
  14. BENNY BLANCO

    BENNY BLANCO R.I.P. Brooklyn1550 Full Member

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    Good point, and I think Jean Pascal will become the 2nd best lightheavyweight behind Chad Dawson. So Froch's win over Pascal is looking real good right now.