Carl Froch is the most overrated puncher in boxing today

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  1. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Froch along with Dirrell and Kessler I believe are improving..

    Dirrell gave Froch an honest lesson in their meeting and it showed against Kessler.

    It's no real coincidence that Froch suddenly could box at a better than average level when he met Kessler. One explaination..Dirrell schooled him.

    In the end Froch is actually slightly underrated.....
     
  2. Jepster

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    Wow you think Kessler is improving? How do you get to that conclusion?
     
  3. StreetsofRAGE

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    Gotta disagree here... he seems to hit pretty hard and of course he has a chance of knocking out his opponents in the super six. You do know we're talking about an elite boxer here right? He's not some bum off the streets.
     
  4. Fuzzy Logic

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    Used to watch Froch a lot in Nottingham when he was still an unheard of talent. he has so much anger and aggression in his punches which is why people like Pascal have said he has heavy hands and hits hard. He may not be in the same league techinically as AA or Ward and probably Dirrell and his chin is overrated but his heart isn't. He will keep fighting anyone anywhere and for as long as a ref will let him. He's definitely the dark horse in the Super 6 and the one the others won't enjoy fighting.
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Like I said he lacks pop. If he had the power you speak of he would have KO'd Kessler or Dirrell. Or hell Pascal whos been wobbled before.

    He can wear down his opponent and KO him ala Taylor. But none of the fighters in the tournament lack the conditioning to be truly susceptable to that. Maybe Alan Green but they'll never meet in the tournament.

    Oh and to call Froch an elite boxer is laughable.
     
  6. Longcount

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  7. brood3

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    You obviously know nothing about boxing. Its not about how much pop you have. Its how you hit the guy.

    Look at Manny Pacquiao, one of the main reasons he's such a great knockout puncher. Is because of his speed. Many of his opponents don't see the punches coming.

    Froch is a slow puncher. Many of his opponents can see his punches coming. Which makes it easier to block and dodge them. If you wanna really know how much pop he has. Why don't tell the three guys you mentioned. To stand in front of Froch like an idiot and take a clean punch from him.
     
  8. MichiganWarrior

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    Nobody sees Mayweathers punches coming, he doesnt knock a helluva alot of fighters out. Everyone sees Klitsckos punches coming, infact he throws the same punc all of the time, they all get knocked out, your analogy is a false one. Timing is a big part of punches landing, but you also need put and snap on your punches. Pacquiao turns his punches over gaining more power. Froch as seen in the Kessler fight doesnt turn his punches over, thus the lack of snap. He caught Kessler with a perfectly timed punch, you could hear it land against Kesslers face, and Kessler had almost no reaction. If Abraham hits you like that your ass is on the ground.

    Dirrell was standing as he tends to do because of his inexperience and arrogance with his hands down against the ropes. Froch went down and came up with a massive right hook that landed cleanly snapping Dirrells head back. He laughed it off like it was nothing. Is that the power you are referring to?


    I said before the tournament started. Kessler and Froch's power didnt worry me. They need to land a bunch of punches on a fatigued battered opponent to get KO's. Abraham is the only one of the 3 or anyone in the tourney for that matter with maybe the exception of Green with true 1 punch KO power.
     
  9. brood3

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    Due your homework.

    Mayweather has busted hands and doesn't throw as much as he did when he was younger. He wins most of his fights by countering his opponents and making them miss.

    You again show your lack of boxing knowledge by bringing up the Klitsckos. Last time I checked the Klitchos are 5 inches taller than most of there opponents. Which makes seeing there punches pointless. Because they could hit over the top and around there opponents guard. I'm pretty sure if Froch was 5 inches taller than his recent opponents he would have knocked them out as well.



    Oh please Dirrell was running around the whole fight. Hard to knock a guy out if you can't hit him. Even Abraham the guy your saying has legitimate power couldn't knock him out. Until he was on the ground of course:lol:.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

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    He doesnt throw as much punches as he was younger because he is fighting at a higher weight class against bigger opponents. His hands have been fully healed for years now. Infact even in his younger days his activity was largely comparable to what it is now? You really want to try and lesson me on Floyds career? Do you see my name? :lol:

    There has only been one fighter that has moved up and not suffered in activity, thats Pacquiao.

    So the reason they have such high KO percentages his because of their height? Boy a guess we better get the memo to Ray Austin, Tony Thompson and Michael Grant. :lol:

    Joe Frazier. 5'11, KO'd a **** load of guys bigger then him, threw basically one punch for most of his career. Explain his KO percentage?





    I just said one of the few times the clumsy caveman was able to land on Dirrell, Dirrell took it easy.


    The first time Abraham landed flush on Dirrell, he put Dirrell down. The first big hook he was able to land on Dirrell he knocked him out. If Froch had hit Dirrell while he was on the ground, im sure Dirrell would have shaken it off.
     
  11. brood3

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    Your screen name don't mean **** to me. Floyd himself was talking all about his hand problems on all the 24-7 shows he did before his fights. I remember because me and my friends would take a shot of Jack every time he brought up his poor little hands. If his hands have been fully healed for years. Why does he continue to dedicate sections talking about how bad it is on 24-7?

    Seems to me like miss communication between you and your home boy. :lol:

    Wrong again. Paul Williams has also moved up in weight. He still throws the same 100 punches per round. Same with Joe Calzaghe who moved up in weight before he retired. Bernard Hopkins punch out put has increased since moving up. Oh and put up Tomaz Adamek as well.

    I guess you've never heard of Lennox Lewis, Riddick Bowe, Larry Holmes, Ken Norton, and my personal favorite George Foreman.

    The same George Foreman who easily destroyed Joe Frazier twice. The guy you say knocked out a **** load of big buys. I guess he had two off nights against Foreman:lol:


    Dirrell was on the floor theres a big difference. Sakio Bika knocked out a guy on the floor recently. Should we start calling him the best puncher at SMW:rofl

    Even though he couldn't knockout or even hurt Calzaghe and Bute.