Carl Froch now the 7th best Super middleweight in the world?

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  1. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Didn't you predict Froch to lose his last four fights by KO....?
     
  2. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    know I picked Taylor to narrowly edge him, Dirrell to school him and Kessler to KO him.

    But I failed to incorporate how shot Taylor was, how bad it is a decision to ever fight in England, and how limited Kessler has been for his whole career as a fighter.


    Now i guarantee Froch gets put out of his misery in his next 4 fights.
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    People who MichiganWarrior rates above Carl Froch at SMW:

    One fighter who lost to Carl Froch.

    One fighter who lost to someone who lost to Carl Froch and whose only other win at SMW was also beaten by Froch.

    One fighter who twice lost to someone who lost to someone who lost to Carl Froch and whose career record at SMW now stands at 5-6.

    Ahh, but you see, his rankings are based on 'talent', not what actually happens in boxing rings....
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Gift decision in shitty ham england. Unanimous decision in any country that knows boxing.

    Abraham completely dominated and KO'd Taylor. Froch was losing wide on 2 judges scorecards and got a lucky KO. Froch lost just as badly to Dirrell as Abraham did if the fights not in Shitty England. Abraham landed far more punches and even knocked Dirrell down. Froch didnt land ****. In England illegal blows count as real punches, see Benn vs Mclellan.

    You comparing this Glen Johnson to the old Glen Johnson? This Glen Johnson KO's Froch. Froch couldnt even keep Kessler off of him. Glen Johnon murders his body then finishes upstairs.


    This is a guy whos been hurt 3 times in his last 3 fights. ANd is about to get brutally KO'd.
     
  5. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Why, did Glen Johnson suddenly get good? Did he suddenly turn into a power puncher? I'm comparing 'this' Glen Johnson to the guy who twice got outpointed by the overrated Chad Dawson and then by the very one-dimensional Tavoris Cloud.

    OMG, he knocked out a top 20 if we're generous SMW, lets all overrate him and disregard the evidence of his entire career.
     
  6. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Another racially biased thread from the general forum's resident clown. Who would have thought it?
     
  7. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Chad Dawson would school Froch easy, probably KO him if he went for it. Tavoris Cloud knocks Froch out. I dont know why you think Froch is good. You havent had enough evidence that he isnt? Getting schooled by a guy with 17 fights, losing to a blind Kessler isnt enough proof for you yet?

    Is this like the Hatton think where you think British fighters are actually good?
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Because he beats people in actual fights.

    As opposed to you thinking he isn't good because he loses to people in hypothetical fights....

    FWIW I think Froch probably loses to Abraham and has less chance with Bute and Ward. I rank boxers though on what they have actually done.

    Your 'top seven' ranking contains two boxers who are effectively retired at this point and one who has no business being in the discussion.
     
  9. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    :patsch:deadOnce again PishicuntForrager embarrasses himself in front of a global audience of millions with his disgraceful trolling. Someone please ban this n00b alt troll for the sake of ESB. :dead:ban:ban1:fire:nono
     
  10. Felix Sanchez

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    I'm with you on that one...

    1. Ward
    2. Kessler
    3. Dirrell
    4. Froch
    5. Bute
    6. Abraham
    7. Johnson

    I've got Dirrell above Froch, as I thought he won the fight by a round. Kessler beat Froch more handily.

    Bute has nowhere near the same level of opposition. IMO, all four above him have better win(s) at the weight.
     
  11. The Executioner

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    Froch's win over Pascal is better than any other SMW so to have him 7th is
    ridiculous. Ward or Bute for number 1 and 2, followed by Froch and AA at 3 and 4.

    Dirrell is a disgrace to boxing!
     
  12. Jack

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    :lol: You've got such a hard on for me, haven't you?

    Anyway, the problem is with your argument is you diminish every Froch fight with excuses. You say "But...but...Taylor was shot :crybaby But...but...Dirrell would have won in the 'Land of the Brave' :crybaby But...but...Kessler was old and no good :crybaby But...but...Pascal was drained :crybaby"

    The problem is, you can do that with every fighter. Ward's best wins are against Green, who was weight drained and infinitely worse than Pascal, Kessler who was injured and headbutted, Miranda who is a poor fighter. Then you've got Dirrell who has had two top level fights against guys he should beat and looked poor in both. He lost to Froch and beat Abraham on his back. You have Froch ranked behind Abraham, yet Abraham has one big win at 168lbs and Froch beat a better version of that fighter. You make excuses about Froch's wins, yet you can say all the same things about Bute but his opposition is far weaker.

    If ANY other super middle had faced the opposition Froch had, and had the same record, you'd have him a clear number 1, I'm sure of that. Most people would. Froch clearly has the best record at super middle right now, but because he fights awkward, people refuse to believe he is number 1.

    I'll let you get back to your double standards. You're a **** poster.
     
  13. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    That's a bit harsh . . .



    On the other **** posters. MW is way below ****. He is actaully a laughing stock
     
  14. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    The only reason this thread was made, was to try to distract people from the fact that Dirrell made an excuse up to not fight his 'good friend'.
     
  15. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sour grapes. Thought you'd have slinked off this forum when your hero faked brain damage