Carl Froch now the 7th best Super middleweight in the world?

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  1. sosolid4u09

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    abrahams only win at super middle is against taylor.
    Direll lost to froch and beat abraham (whos only had one fight at super middle)

    rankings should be

    bute - most proven fighter
    ward - only had one good win so far. But clearly best of the s6
    kessler - beat froch
    froch
    direll
    abraham
    johnson
    green

    but then again im not surprised at your idiotic rankings considering who you are....surprised you dont have bika and sheika and manfredo ahed of froch
     
  2. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    The top two in your list are a joke.

    All this head injury bull**** from Dirrel. Ward was happy he isn't fighting Dirrel, and will now stick to fighting lesser opposition in his hometown.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Johnson all the way up at 5 come on now

    He beat Green who cares

    1 and 2 are Ward or Bute depending on who ya like
    3 Kessler just beat undefeated Froch who beat Dirrel
    4 Dirrel just beat undefeated Abraham
    5 Froch lost close to Kessler beat Dirrel who beat Abraham
    6 Abraham beat Taylor
     
  4. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wont lose any fights by KO Im not saying he will win them all.The Abraham fight is a very hard one but Froch wont be knocked out.
     
  5. harvinmagler

    harvinmagler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why the **** have you got Bute as no.1? He hasn't fought anyone to be the "most proven fighter" if anything he's the most unproven fighter
     
  6. Badlok

    Badlok Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Green doesn't belong in the top 10! Bika,Andrade would walk over him!
     
  7. SILVIO_DANTE

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    The judges weren't from Nottingham mate
     
  8. MrMagic

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    Froch is the one with the most solid legacy, should they all retire today. Kessler is up there too with Ward, Bute for his three years as a champion has done nothing, YET.
     
  9. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed. Out of all these fighters, Froch has fought he best opposition, and will continue to do so, and has an excellent record against them. it's so annoying when people look back in hindsight and diminish a win.

    I've been on ESB for years and have followed Froch's career outside of ESB and on here and it's always the same story. Even going as far back as the Magee fight. I saw people pick him to lose that and when he didn't, they made excuses. Before the Pascal fight, Froch wasn't favoured and most people thought Pascal, despite being the foreign opponent, would win the bout. When he went to America to fight Taylor, the majority of people thought he'd lose that bout because of how good Taylor looked against Lacy and that Froch was still an unknown quantity. After he won, Taylor became shot but nobody was saying that before the fight and he didn't look like a poor fighter in the ring. Dirrell was supposed to win, because he has massive styles advantages, yet didn't. Even though he lost against Kessler, he did better than many people expected him too. Many were saying he'd get knocked out or easily outboxed. When that didn't happen, the automatic response is that Kessler must have had a problem.

    To diminish a guys career in hindsight, shows how limited your boxing knowledge is. This will happen throughout Froch's career because many people don't understand what makes him so good, so they pick against him time and time again. When he proves them wrong, rather than gives him deserved praise, they try and save face, which is why so many people rank him low or diminish his victories.

    He's not technically great but he does have the best record of any 168lber and he will continue to prove people wrong.
     
  10. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    The only good win Froch has on his resume is Pascal. Who was most likely weight drained. Then you have a shot Taylor who Abraham beat far more impressively and a gift against a guy with 17 fights who everyone and your man lover knows is far superior to Froch both athletically and skill wise. As to why if you put a poll up of who would win a rematch not only would people pick Dirrell wide, but they'd pick him to win by KO. Because in this fight Dirrell would finish what he started in the 10th.

    Dirrell was the underdog muther****er. 2-1 you ****ing clown. Most had Dirrell losing yet he schooled that limey clown. Only the fight being in a shitty country kept Dirrell from winning.

    Then he loses to a guy who cant even see. :lol: And thats impressive. Is that what passes for impressive in Britain? Is that why Haye is so popular over there? When 1 or 2 decent fights and suddenly you are a star? You didnt learn with Hatton? :lol:
     
  11. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    :rofl

    You are such a *****.

    That classless piece of ghetto scum isn't rematching anyone because he's had to feign a brain injury in order to duck out of the super six with a little bit of a career intact. Everyone knows it, and deep down you know it too.

    Dirrell stays in the competition, he loses to Ward and then he's 1-2 in his fights against decent opposition, his only win coming the way of a DQ he got by pretending to be injured. He has no career.

    You watch him make a miraculous recovery once the tournament is all wrapped up.
     
  12. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    MichiganWarrior is wright and everyone else with a different opinion is wrong!
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    He was. He was also a middleweight who was never that good to begin with. Got KO'd by Kelly Pavlik, then lost a decision to Pavlik, then after the Froch fight got dominated and KO'd by Abraham brutally. Taylor hasnt had an impressive win in 5 years. :lol: Yet he was still beating Froch's ass for the majority of the fight until he gassed.

    Dirrell would have won anywhere other then shitty england. Not just America. Anywhere.
    Kessler has double vision yet he beat Froch. He cant even fight anymore probably for the rest of his life and he still kicked Froch's ass. :lol: What does that tell you about Froch? Lost to a guy who cant see. Jesus.

    No I wouldnt. Kessler has an so-called excellent resume filled with overrated fighters and Eurobums and I dont have him number 1. Hell Kessler is a 4 time champion. I dont have him number one. I rank fighters based on in ring performance, skill, and ability.

    I dont rate gifts to a fighter with 17 fights and never been 12 rounds before, I dont rate victories over shot middleweights, I dont rate losing to a guy who cant even see.


    Thats the difference between American rating and British rating. As to why you thought Hatton was a good boxer, if Hatton was American he'd actually have to show it in the ring, same as guys as Froch and Haye dont do either. You just rate them, because they get a gift(Collazo) then KO a shot fighter (Castillo) its a far harder rating system in America. We expect our fighters to actually show it against top comp.
     
  14. Jack

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    You just repeated everything I said you would. Seriously, are you that much of an idiot?
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Dirrell would be 2-0 if he hadnt fought Froch in shitty England. He is far superior to Froch in every way. Froch is just a horrible fighter to watch if you like technical skill, but again country that produced Ricky Hatton. He's probably the most skillful fighter you've seen in years.

    I wouldnt care. Dirrell and Ward have proven themselves far superior to their comp.

    Its basically Dirrell, Ward and Bute then everyone else. Maaaaybe Glen Johnson and Abraham can shock here and there, but thats it. Kesslers done, and Froch is a joke and would get embarrassed by the young Americans.

    If Dirrell and Ward want to fight outside the tournament for more money and acclaim them being the 2 best in the world, I wouldnt mind it at all.