Carl Froch On Jermain Taylor Clash

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  1. DStew

    DStew Active Member Full Member

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    Good, fair summary of why many people tend to pick against Taylor or just dislike him all together.
     
  2. Snorkel

    Snorkel Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't work for him in the first Pavlik fight, another match up in which he had a substantial speed advantage.

    That said, Taylor UD is most likely, but a Froch KO is certainly a possibility.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I think Pavlik-Froch comparisons are a bit of a red herring. There are more differences than similarites. You'd have to run over Pavlik with a truck to get him to take the pressure off, and that, in my opinion, is the main reason Taylor can't hang with him. KP keeps his hands up nearly all the time. Froch does not. JT's jab and quick combos will bother Froch a lot more than they did Pavlik.
     
  4. DStew

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    The pressure/experience factor makes me wonder if Froch having never been KD before might work against him if he actually does hit the canvas.

    Pavlik had been down and come back to win several fights before he did it against Taylor; he knew he had it in him to overcome it and didn't go into panic mode.

    Froch, never having tasted the mat before, may not react as well if he does happen to go down.
     
  5. TommyV

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    Left Hook Loser had JT on the canvas and hurt. Froch is going to whoop that ass. :smoke

    Froch KO11.
     
  6. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    i feel exactly the same
     
  7. DStew

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    Taylor got hit in the back of the head while he was slipping away from the ropes. Not a legal KD, and definitely not a clean one where he showed any risidual effects.

    If that is your sole basis for picking Froch, you need help.
     
  8. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This fight is going to be a good fight. JT is going to make a mistake and CF is going to punish him, CF win via KO.
     
  9. TommyV

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    Froch is similar to Pavlik only better.

    Aggressive, bad intentions unlike Jermain himself as he so claims, hits hard, main punch is the right hand, works off a long jab.

    Only thing is he has a much better chin and more heart.
     
  10. FINITO

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    My initial pick was Taylor but the more i think about it, im starting to lean towards Froch.. Taylor's stamina is always an issue and Froch will pour it on him in the later rounds. 50-50 fight.
     
  11. DStew

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    Except for his lower workrate, inferior jab, punches aren't as straight, pressures less, keeps his hands lower.

    Yeah except for that, they're exactly the same.

    "Better"... lol.
     
  12. TommyV

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    Work rate and pressure means nothing if you don't use it properly.

    His jab is hardly inferior, he controlled the Pascal fight with it when he wasn't brawling and that's against a guy who's quick and a very good boxer.

    What does straight punches matter? It's not like he doesn't punch straight, his uppercut his main punch which is probably why he doesn't punch straight.

    Low hands means nothing either, he has the chin to back it up.
     
  13. cityofgod

    cityofgod Worcester warrior Full Member

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    I think Froch KO's Taylor with a body shot myself. He can really wack the mid-section according to a Robin Reid article. I bet Tony Dodson agrees too.

    Taylor has really got to stick to his boxing to win this, or Froch takes him out with one shot.
     
  14. gigogreco

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    pavlik did, but the question is, can froch.. taylor looks like a fighter, who HATES being pressured, but if you give him time, he is very danferous. Personally i feel, that froch is to stationary, to pile on enough pressure to make taylor uneasy.

    compared to taylor, his jad is certainly not as good. Nevertheless he did qiute good in the later rounds vs pascal.

    what a weird question.. straighter punches gets from a to b faster.. comes in handy when boxing:lol:

    yeah,, no such thing as winning on points.:yep

    eventhough taylor is the better boxer, there are som areas, where froch presents some issues. Personally i think he is mentally much tougher, and if the fight comes down to determination, then its froch all the way.

    On the other hand, if taylor manages to keep this more like a chess match, similar style as the rematch against pavlik, then he wins.

    to me taylor is a 60-40 favorite.
     
  15. DStew

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    You said he was similar to Pavlik except better; I gave you examples of how he is dissimilar to Pavlik in ways that make him anything but "better".

    Pavlik beat Taylor with a combination of workrate, pressure, and a straight shots that he set up with his arrow straight jab. Froch is arguably inferior to Pavlik in every one of those categories.

    "What do straight punches matter?" Seriously? :-(

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