Carl froch resume can't match joe calzaghe's

Yes but there is to much cans, and Eubank did not beat a good fighter 3 or 4 years before Calzaghe fight, he wasnt shot as as Roy but sure not even close to his prime.
And every Joe fan mention his win over RJJ like its some great win, there is 20 active fighters that would beat that version of Roy!!!

 

No need to generalise, the extreme do; not the more level headed guys.

I agree with that too, as previously posted, it was a cash out fight. Similar to Tyson vs Lewis.

 

Oh please ..He fought a faded legend ..Come on now its not like he fought a young guy in his prime in hostile terrirtory ..Canelo just basically did the same thing with Mosley ..

 

Faded being the key word, not shot.

Mosley is shot, long gone. Eubank atleast had some fight in him, some desire. Mosley doesn't have the stomach for fighting.

Unfair comparison.

 

Stopped reading when Eubank was listed as an All Time Great.

 

Froch's resume shits all over Calzaghe at this stage. Especially if you don't count wins. The man took risks, traveled all over to make a name for his self. Froch is the definition of a fighter hungry for legacy without giving a damn about 0s. He was the first in line to join a tournament as dangerous and career wrecking(Look at Kessler and Dirrell) as the supersix and made it to the finals while being a heavy underdog. Froch makes Calzaghe look terrible.

 

When Calzaghe fought him he was semi-retired, coming off a loss and two exhibition 10 rounders overseas. Even though it's obvious you're just another Calzaghe bored troll, if you find that win any good you're not only praising Calzaghe but disrespecting a true great like Eubank.

Hopefully your normal form, if it exists, realizes that.

 

He might not be an ATG but he surely is a great fighter. The only negative in his career is not aiming for bigger fights overseas. Whether fans want to accept it or not, the big fights take place in America. That's where true success really is in this sport.

There's a reason Hatton and Khan made the move there. No one wants to follow the footsteps of Calzaghe's pathetic resume.

 

Let us not get too high on Joey Cokehead! Let's take into consideration a few things:

Roy Jones was way past his not only prime but his 1st 2 declines in boxing skill.

BHOP way over 40!!!

Jeff Lacey - just plain ol soft with a number of questionable wins!

All Frochs opponents are formidable ones and most likely better boxers and athletes than any of the afforementioned in this post! Particularly at the time Froch fought them (Kessler excluded).

So you might not wanna toot Joey's horn too loud!

 

froch is still building on his career and people already think he has surpassed joe so when the final chapter is written for froch there is no doubt he will have. stay at home joe, i think the first rounds in both bhop rjj showed what would have happened if he had crossed the pond earlier to prove his greatness. smart move but not legacy sealing as is evident by the sudden movement for froch to have already taken over him as britians best at 168

 

The top SMW's of Joe's era were European. He didn't need to go to the US to fight someone like Kessler.

You've just listed Eubank as a great fighter, but listed his lack of away fights as a a negative. The same logic applies to Calzaghe, who's resume is far from pathetic, if you took the time to learn what you were talking about.

 

If I didn't take the time to learn what I'm talking about, I'll pass on this thread like I do many others.

Why didn't Calzaghe opt to unify as soon as he won the paper WBO title from Eubank?. Both Eubank and Benn had options in Toney, Jones Jr. and many others overseas yet they openly turned them down, that IS a negative whether you want to accept it or not. Sadly, legacies are made in America, that's where the big fights happen and are globally recognized. It may sound ridiculous to you but the facts are out there.

Fact is, Calzaghe had over 17 title defenses before Lacy turned pro and decided to unify by fighting him, same thing goes for Kessler. How did these guys manage to hold the IBF, WBC and WBA titles before Calzaghe?. Fact is, if you're going to dominate a division the first aim is to unify, correct?

 

I agree 100 percent.

 

There was no money in 168, so American talent didn't fight there. The division is still very new and didn't really gain traction here until the Super Six, which Showtime aired because the talent was comparatively cheap.

With big money in the well established middleweight glamor division, the only fighters at 168 were guys who either couldn't make 160 or didn't have the talent to do so.