Carl Froch sets the record straight on who would have won if he fought Calzaghe

I don't care.

I said that Sobot was just one example.

You cannot seriously claim that Joe wanted the biggest fights out there, including one against the world's best fighter, when he was fighting the likes of Veit.

Why wasn't he trying to fight named opposition live in the U.S.?

 

What are you talking about?
As said, I have seen that interview and seen another after where he said Jones has come back with some wins. Whats to defend?
It is you who takes different interviews by the same person and take only the side that suits an agenda as proven earlier on this very same thread.
You call it a nothing reply because the truth hurts that it is the case with you

 

Roy looked back to normal with those wins?

Ha!

That has to be one of the funniest things that you've ever said since I've known you.

Hilarious.

Yes, it was a mistimed punch, as his timing was out. He was a shell of the fighter he'd once been.

Fighting Green at CW makes no difference at all. Green was a B/C class fighter who hit Roy with a telegraphed right hand, which Roy couldn't react to due to his diminished reflexes. Go and watch it. The punch wasn't even fast.

 

How was a first defence who was a sub an example of anything? It was a substitute. Presumably because a date was booked

In answer to the named opp in the US. You have said yourself that there were not any American SMWs he should have traveled for. So now you are going back on what you have said previously. You are tying yourself up. Do you want me to show you where you said that? Just go back a few posts of yours and you can see for yourself. Self pwnage at its finest

 

We're not talking about 2006-2007.

We're talking about your interview from 2001.

The Eubank fight didn't make many waves in the U.S.

 

Funny? When it was noted that after the first round tha Ajamu fight could fit in with Roys fights of old.

Now you think fighting at a new weight in a new division doesnt mean anything lol and implying that Jones punch wasnt trying to land on Calzaghe due to not being as accurate as a punch can be and because even though the commentary said otherwise that Jones was gun shy with Calzaghe, even though the commentary said otherwise.
No agenda - Loudon

 

Jones admitted to noticing the win. He was in America

Also 2001, Calzaghe had just beaten Sheika and that did get noticed as Sheika had been hyped even in the UK previously. If you were watching then, you would know that.
The Jones fight was talked about after the Sheika fight

 

And again.

Truth?

This is the truth:

He said that Roy was shot and that he preferred a Pavlik fight.

Who cares if he said that Roy had come back with wins?

What difference does that make when that comment was made AFTER the interview that I uploaded?

Again, he only said that to save face as he was backed into a corner at the presser.

 

I used Sobot as an example, as in he continued to fight those calibre of opponents all thoughout his reign.

No, apart from Liles, there were no other U.S. SMW's to travel for.

When have I ever said he needed to travel to the U.S. to fight other SMW's?

I've never said that.

What I have repeatedly said, is:

If he was serious about fighting Roy, then he needed to move up to LHW and go to the U.S. to showcase his skills and gain exposure, in order to try and create a demand for the fight.

 

Before you carry on with this charade, I think you should go and watch the first round against Ajamu.

Yes, Roy was gun shy.

Did you not see the Johnson fight from 2004?

Do you seriously think that an earlier version of Roy wouldn't have jumped on Joe had he have knocked him down?

I never said that his punch wasn't trying to land. Stop being silly. I said that it was a mistimed shot due to his timing being off.

 

Yes, he noticed the win. It was his job to notice it. But there was no demand for the fight, because most boxing fans didn't know who Joe was.

Showtime thought that Joe was an exciting fighter and they gave him the platform that he needed. But he produced mixed performances due to injuries, and he wouldn't fight in the U.S. which led to their interest in him eventually fizzling out.

Sheika was just another B-C class fighter. Yes, I was watching at the time.

Who talked about a potential Jones fight afterwards?

It was just Joe and Frank talking nonsense.

Did you see the post fight interviews from the Sheika and Veit fights which Serge uploaded last year?

Frank W saying:

"Come over to Showtime and drop back to SMW to fight for Joe's belt"

I've never heard anything as ridiculous as that.

A HBO fighter of 9 years, fighting on Showtime?

The world's best fighter dropping back to SMW to a fight a relatively unknown fighter?

The world's best fighter who held all of the LHW belts, fighting for a lightly regarded belt which wasn't respected?

It was cringeworthy.