Carl Froch - Surprisingly Damn good Shittalker

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  1. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He doesn't have to fight credible opposition.He could go down the Calzaghe route.That is the point that was made.But still,who wants to fight Carl Froch?Thats the question.It doesn;t appear as though taylor wants the fight
     
  2. djoc175

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    :goodGood post
     
  3. Hermit

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    Same here. Which of those guys bring him the paycheck he wants? Which are available? Hell, they have Mundine listed? Mr. Drop WBA shorts and run away screaming like a little girl at the though of facing Kessler? Bottom line, Froch made Taylor an offer based on what he would draw in Nottingham and was rebuffed. You think these other guys bring more money? And not a lot of low risk in these guys for Froch. He simply is not that good. You will find out soon enough though as if his performance against Pascal wasn't enough to prove that.
     
  4. BoxingFanNo1

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    This is where you fall on your face my friend.
    I've NEVER said he's that good, I actually believe he's unproven and has lots of work to do.
    If you don't think Froch could pack out 10,000 at the FM arena against a lower ranked opponent now that he's a champ and Calzaghe is out of the picture you're very much mistaken.

    I just think you're hating for the hell of it and if that is the case it's pathetic.
     
  5. Hermit

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    This may or may not be true. Even a sell out won't provide the money needed to lure Taylor over. For that you need TV revenue, which seems to be lacking. Let's wait for this fight to get inked and then see what the money is. I'd bet Taylor gets AT LEAST what he did against Lacy. $2.5 Mill. Makes the $1.6 offered by Froch look more than a little meager. I think the facts are on my side on this one. Let's just wait and see. Even if it is less money, Taylor wins by getting the fight on his terms.
     


  6. Ohhhhhh Look, My favourite boxer can make more than your boxer..... Blah Blah Blah :dead
     
  7. BoxingFanNo1

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    Lets look at it from your point of view. Froch gets what 1,1.5 or 2 mil for fighting JT? Now, what if he loses? Where is his next payday going to come from? He's back to square one and will struggle to make 250k next fight.

    Now what if he was to select the easier options from the top 10. He'd earn what? 500k? But that would build each fight as his fan base grew. He could easily fight the 'Peter Manfredos' equivalents of the of this world till the cows come home. 500k a pop, twice a year over 3-4 years. Trust me if Calzaghe could do it Froch can too.

    Now way up those 2 scenarios. Which to you appears to be the ballsy one? You can not question the guys heart dude. He wants it badly.
     
  8. TheChamp1000

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    Froch is not that popular in the UK that he could do a ppv and the free to air channels do not offer too much money to their boxing budgets. So the payday against taylor is probably 4-5 fights worth of mandatories to froch.
    He has not had the big fights and is in his 30's he needs a pay day is trying to get it with taylor.
     
  9. Bodysnatcher

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    Where would he make 1/3 - 1/4 of the money he could against taylor from that list in your opinion?

    I am struggling to see it from a money point of view.

    2,3,4,6 & 7 might get him a little but how do you sell those fights to the public? Froch is relatively unknown and the guys I have listed dont have a great deal of tv pull/hype so I am struggling to see how easy it is for froch to make easy money vs these guys.

    He could fight 1 and lose and never get near taylor money again so its worth the risk to fight for 3-4x times the money right away against a fading boxer.
     
  12. TheChamp1000

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    Yeah Calzaghe would have been paid by setanta and had his share of the ppv/tv money stateside.
    Terrestial tv/satellite companies would pay more to show Calzaghe than froch in those fights. Calzaghe is on a 10 year undefeated run and has decent exposure at that time behind him. Froch does not have the same power at the negotiating table.
    Plus Calzaghe Kessler packed out at 50-60k venue. If Froch fought Kessler I highly doubt they can fill it so ticket money is not so high.

    Do you really think that he wont need 3-4 mandatories to make that money?
    I previously outlined in another post that I think froch vs unknown is hard to promote here and in america.
    I think froch wants a big fight and payday now he has a belt.
    He could lose a mandatory but can get a big payday against taylor (maybe one he wont see again) to fight a fading taylor.
    The fight makes sense to me if your froch.
     
  13. BoxingFanNo1

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    With Setanta/Sky on his side. 10,000 sell out crowd etc Froch would make 500k no problem. Froch may be unknown but right now with Calzaghe gone the british public are looking for someone to fill his boots, Froch is in the right place at the right time. The unknown part means nothing, Hamed and Calzaghe have proven you can fill a stadium fighting guys barely top 10.

    I think you need to read through the pages to come upto date. I'm not the one who has the problem with him fighting JT, hell I'm looking forward to it.:good
     
  14. Bodysnatcher

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  15. elchivito

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    both floyd and froch are **** talkers. difference floyd has beaten acouple of names, froch, well, beat what's his name again? instead on picking on a retiree, why doesn't he flap about Taylor, who's a more realistic option? joe has done enough professional slapping, er, boxing for more than a decade. he's probably another amir khan waiting to happen