Carl Froch v Steve Collins. @ 168

Froch SD

 

Collins was a class above Carl.

 

It's chris eubank

 

How about Froch vs Phil Collins?

 

I actually think this is an easy fight for Collins.

 

Collins excelled against Reggie and Sumbu in the early 90s, arguably winning both fights on points in their backyards with sneaky countering, sharp combinations and awesome aggression. Reggie was as slick as a greaseball back then (routinely outboxing Roy in Pensacola in sparring fights in '91-'92), and Sumbu was the best defensive counter-puncher I've ever seen (and I include Mayweather in that).

Carl Froch simply isn't very good. A shot, blown-up J.Taylor boxed his ears off for 11 rounds, as did a young Andre Dirrell (who really lacked any kind of fundamentals), and Ward. Johnson and Kalambay were streets ahead of Taylor and Dirrell.

Froch struggled more with a weight-drained, ancient Glen Johnson than Collins did with a peak Tony Thornton (a far better middleweight than Glen ever was - he employed Hopkins as a sparring partner, and better super-middleweight than Glen was a light-heavy; was beating Toney after six rounds when James was lb4lb #1).

Two different classes of fighter. And Collins was the REAL Hardest Man - every McCallum body shot just made him come stronger, to the point McCallum was running away in the last few rounds (McCallum never ran away!), and Nigel Benn's best punches ever didn't cause Steve's eyelids to blink - a left hook wound up in the first first and a right hand off the ropes in second match, unreal shots; see them.

 

Me too. Froch is too gangly and awkward for the effective, sneak-hitting Collins. Froch throws shots from behind himself and crosses his feet into them - Collins had one of the best sneak right counters you'll see, and always followed with a left hook downstairs to make space to go again, allowing him to outwork his opponent.

 

Get this - Collins fought McCallum for the title as a 16-fight novice at 25 years old. When Froch was 25, he had yet to make his debut.

 

Anyone that predicts a ko here is a wee bit crazy.

 

Great stuff, Bulldog:good. Nicely put! Frochie is going to have to outbox Collins to win because nobody gets knocked out here. But Stevie is obviously the better boxer.

 

Didn't Collins Lose to Reggie Johnson ? How did he excell in that fight ?

 

I thought Collins won the fight. Reggie at that time was literally like a southpaw version of a peak Roy Jones (see round ten!). I felt Reggie beat Toney.

 

There is only one European fighter James Toney has ever really respected. Steve Collins.