Carl Froch vs Arthur Abraham: Opinions/fight analysis?

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  1. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Yeah I would say he seems stunned, but an American would probably say he looked floored for a moment there :D























































    This is an ESB classic in the making :yep
     
  2. rainmaker

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    Exactly you can't say that Abraham's chin is tested based on just the Miranda fight and Dirrel. Froch is a big super middle weight with reach. How many of those power shots will he be able to absorb if he does start getting tagged? especially to the body, high guard does nothing against body shots and if Froch can break him down, his hands will come down, leaving big openings to exploit. Froch doesn't seem to have one punch power these days but he still hits pretty damn hard. Abraham spent a lot of time down at middle weight and his style worked against guys there. Taylor aside he's fought Dirrel and that was a bit of an eye opener.

    A tough guy like Froch should be able to hit through the guard, he can't block shots forever and they will start to get through. I think Froch will hurt him early on, it may take Abraham out of his comfort zone and open up, in which case I expect Froch to go for it.
     
  3. gigogreco

    gigogreco Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what ive come to realise about froch is, that he brings truoble to anoyne in the smw div.

    it doesnt matter if youre athletic gifted and pucnh relatively hard (direll, taylor and pascal)

    it doeant matter if youre a boxer/puncher like kessler

    and it wont matter if youre a small pressure fighter like abraham, froch is going to bring some pain.

    furthermore froch has insanely long arms, watch the kessler fight, alot of times, froch was withing his own punching distance, whereas mikkel missed by an inch, well Aa aint gonna miss by an inch, he´ll miss by 2-3-4 inches.

    actually i imagine the fight,looking like vitali vs arreola, but being a bit more competetive.
     
  4. mcnamai

    mcnamai Active Member Full Member

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    I have predicted EVERY super 6 fight correctly. If there is something to fight for (i.e loser goes out) then AA wins this fight no question in my mind. However if both are already through when they fight, then I can see a Froch points win. Why go to war when you don't have too? Having the Dirrell v Ward fight before this fight is nonsense as its very likely both will have qualified and the edge will be taken off for this fight. I understand both fighters will still want to win BUT if mentally you know you dont have to go to war you wont. This will turn into a very cagey affair..
     
  5. mcnamai

    mcnamai Active Member Full Member

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    Everyone on this thread seems to be forgetting both will probably have qualified by the time this fight takes place. This will significantly effect how the fight is going to be fought and therefore tactics will change. I mean these wars can shorten careers, why engage in a war, when u really don't have to? If both have already qualified, the one thing I know is that this is going the distance!
     
  6. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    AA will shock you all. The dude is angry. He needs less than 8 rounds to finish Froch. I'm pretty sure. We will wait and we will see. :hi:
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    No doubt in my mind that Froch is getting KO'd.

    Unless you happen to have the reflexes of a prime Roy Jones, keeping your hands down and your chin up in the air like Froch does, against a puncher like Abraham means you're getting knocked out. Simple as that.
     
  8. rainmaker

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    But it isn't as simple as that though is it? you have to factor in height and reach. Yes that is a HUGE factor, and the last time I checked AA didn't have the fast moving inside game like Tyson has to nullify the reach/height of bigger fighters. Why do people see this as a foregone conclusion and a win for AA and by KO too??? AA needs to be able to close the distance fast,something he can't do. He will try to stalk and put Froch under pressure, but Froch will hit him with jabs and right hands. AA will spend a lot of time covering up and hoping to come on to a tiring Froch late on, but Froch can still gun sling late in a fight, so how does AA win so easy??? come on people!

    Don't let your hearts rule on this one and use your head, think logically, who has the style to offset the other? think about it.
     
  9. Back Hand Slap

    Back Hand Slap Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dirrel put AA on his ass and stunned him. Dirrel stunned Froch a couple times. AA scored a flash KD on Dirrel, and KO'd JT as did Froch, although AA's was a one shot. Froch has the accumalitive power and strength to really damage AA in this fight and has the better boxing ability. AA will stun Froch a few times, but tell me, does AA really carry his power that well to SMW? do we really know if he does or not or if its any better than Dirrels power for an example? The Dirrel fight suggests AA is having problems with the power of guys at SMW too. I say Pascal hits just as hard and Froch took his shots. AA has NEVER been in with somebody as strong as Carl. Froch UD/late TKO
     
  10. MTB79

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    Probably who evers promoter pays the ref and judges the most. Abraham then.
     
  11. rainmaker

    rainmaker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    THANK YOU! At last a reality check! No doubt about it, AA can bang, he's a solid tough strong fighter, but he's not been in with someone as strong as the Cobra, who has decent ability a warrior mentality and enough height and reach to give AA nightmares!

    This is by no means a given that AA wins. Could be down to whose will breaks first, who wants it more, who can keep their composure enough to get off the better and more eye catching work. AA's inactivity will cost him, and sadly I don't think he can make the adjustments to be the kind of boxer that will set a fast pace, just don't see it.

    The smart money has to be on Froch.
     
  12. o_money

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    Pretty much agree with this whole post:good
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Exactly what im thinking.


    Again, Froch chin isnt amazing. Got put on his can vs Taylor. Hurt by Kessler and Dirrell.

    Abraham is by far the hardest puncher he's faced. With that defense, im thinking brutal destruction.
     
  14. RobertV77

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    AA's power looked pretty good at the end of the Dirrel fight. If Froch doesn't find a way to hide I think its going to be the end of his run as a top SMW.
     
  15. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    I am sold on the beleif that if froch can manage distance he can win as well as fight a controlled and disciplined fight

    Frochs chin is not iron but his heart is something many fighters should envy he was down vs Taylor and badly hurt vs Dirrel but kept on trucking

    Now Arthur has unreal power and one hell of a shell for a defense

    i figure Arthur gives away 3 or 4 of the 1st 4 rounds on inactivity

    In the middle Arthur turns it on a little but like Dirrel its still not enough to win rounds

    my guess after 7 4-3 or 5-2 Froch

    Abraham like the Dirrel fight will get desperate around 10 and get out of his shell and unleash

    this is where the fight is decided if Froch can maintain and take the shots he will survive to an ugly 12 round win

    Or he is KO'd late

    Froch has many great traits high workrate hard punch tough chin big heart and plenty of stamina those qualities all rolled into one are hard to beat

    I feel Arthur only really has the big punch going for him and the likliness of Froch getting wild and wide open

    but if Froch has a good plan and executes he will
    win in 12