Carl Froch vs Canelo

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  1. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's exactly what would happen.
     
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  2. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Groves was a massive puncher.
     
  3. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Style makes fights, and if anyone has the style blueprint of how to beat Canelo, it's Calzaghe - angles, insane workrate, excellent footwork, granite chin and recovery. Short of another freak injury like BJS, I can't see any scenario where Canelo beats JC, easily the worst style matchup for Alvarez.

    Canelo is not busy enough to keep up with Calzaghe and would be gassed by the 7th IMO.

    Ward would be too strong and would bully Canelo and nullify his assets like he does to almost everyone he faced.

    Kessler and Froch are a step down and Canelo might win 5/10 - 50/50 fights IMO.
     
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  5. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    I can see Ward beating Canelo by a cojones bashing, billy goat head butting UD. Froch I give a 33 1/3 chance of winning a decision before 80,00 fans at Wembley but most like loses a decision in San Antonio.

    Kessler loses by late KO. He has nothing to discomfort Canelo.
     
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  6. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't get this at all? Froch has his flaws but his resume is STELLAR, and not once in his career did he even look CLOSE to be stopped (the Groves knockdown was a flash knockdown, and he seemed more embarassed than hurt/in trouble)

    Pascal, Abraham, Kessler x2, Ward, Taylor, Bute, Groves...

    But Canelo is gonna get a late stoppage?

    That's when I'd start to really believe the loaded wraps / HGH narrative on Canelo!!!

    Canelo has the talent to find his way to a decision, but I can't see the evidence for a stoppage - aside from the BJS freak injury shot.
     
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  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Super Joe Calzaghe was a good fighter but he was not exactly sleek and you could get at him. Canelo is more durable, skilful with a better defence so he would beat him and likely drop him a couple of times. Calzaghe never fought a truly great fighter at their peak.
     
  8. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo just takes the fight out of other fighters. They all have a plan until shot after shot lands. This guy has devistating body punches that makes guys wilt. Until somebody can make Canelo respect them that cinnamon bull is charging.
     
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  9. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree that Canelo is "more skillful." Both are excellent boxers. While Canelo hits harder, Calz is considerably
    faster and has a better activity rate.

    The pride of Wales decisions Canelo.
     
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Canelo is more skillful than Calzaghe who was protected for a long time despite him not needing it.
     
  11. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whether Calz was protected or not is entirely immaterial to this discussion. Certainly, his style differed considerably from Canelo's, but there is no denying that the Welsman was a very skillfull technician indeed.
     
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  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    He was a very good fighter with good speed and output but he was not the most skillful technician by any stretch of imagination that is pure projection. Skillful technician is someone like James Toney and Andre Ward.
     
  13. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Froch has an iron will and wouldn't be intimidated by Canelo. He has a huge reach advantage and would do some work with his underrated jab. You can never count Froch out of a fight but Canelo is simply too well rounded for the cobra. I say Canelo beats him 8-4 or 7-5 type of fight.
     
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  14. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How is it "pure projection?"

    How much or how little "skill" a fighter has is part objective, part subjective analysis.

    Nor did I ever claim Calz was the most skillful boxer. That's a strawman argument and you know it. Moreover, I used the term technician here in a colloquial not a clinical sense. But if we are using it in a clinical sense, there are better examples of a sublime technician than Andre Ward.

    Calz was a skilled operator. There. No more semantic ambiguity.
     
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  15. African Cobra

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    Canelo is more skillful, So are Bernard Hopkins, James Toney, Michael Nunn, Michael Watson to name a few not to talk of Roy Jones and Chris Eubank Snr. Calzaghe great asset was the pace he could set with good speed of hand not great skill.