Carl Froch vs Roy Jones jr ... Prime for Prime

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  1. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was an intelligent post, markings of a true gent and scholar.
     
  2. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    current roy yes. prime one never!!
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    You would have favoured Carl HEAVILY?

    :rofl

    What difference would the venue have made?

    Like I say, it would have a been a race between a VW and a Lamborghini.

    Seriously, go and watch Roy at his peak, then come back to me.

    It would have been EASY for Roy, and he'd have got zero credit for the win.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I remember seeing this interview with Froch where he expressed how deeply disappointed he was with Jones when he found out about him testing positive for steroids. He said Jones was one of his idols and he'd been a big inspiration to him and that he was ''gutted'' upon hearing the devastating blow.

    The interview was actually on TV and you could see how painful it was for him to talk about it. At one point he became so emotional his eyes started to well up with tears and he asked the crew to stop filming so he could take a little time to compose himself again. I'm not ashamed to admit that I actually started to tear up a little myself when I watched it too. Seeing a fearless warrior and an international superstar like Froch reduced to a gibbering emotional wreck because he'd been let down by his idol was absolutely heartbreaking.


    Froch: My drug test hell

    CARL FROCH has revealed how boxing's drug-busters demanded an early-morning test to prove he is clean.

    The IBF world supermiddleweight champ was disturbed by a team of testers who arrived unannounced at his Nottingham home at 6.50am.

    Froch takes on Yank Yusaf Mack at Nottingham Ice Arena tonight.

    But he says the dawn raid left him rattled as it woke his son Rocco and frightened his girlfriend Rachael.

    Froch, 35, said: It is good to keep drugs out of the sport but sometimes the manner in which they do it can be interpreted as a bit ignorant.

    Many world-class boxers are being targeted because the sport has been hit by a series of scandals, with Amir Khan's recent opponent Lamont Peterson testing positive for steroid use.

    Antonio Tarver and Andre Berto were busted in the USA while they were world champions, just like Roy Jones one of Froch's all-time ring heroes.

    The same stringent tests that have brought the problem into sharp focus in the States are now naming and shaming UK fighters.

    Froch added: I'm glad they are doing it but it is annoying when you are getting tested and you know yourself you are clean.

    You have to give the British Boxing Board of Control a diary of where you will be and at what times you are there so they can perform random tests.

    They've been catching a few boxers in the States that way.

    I was about to go on an early run when there was a loud bang on my front door.

    I'm thinking, you have just woken up my boy and then Rachael starts screaming about it, she's not happy.

    Before that was at eight in the evening and I missed Coronation Street! The testers get a comprehensive note of your movements. They knew when I'd be training in Sheffield, what time I'd be back at home in Nottingham.

    Even the times of my runs had to be passed to them so they could turn up when they liked. I run between 7am and 9am so they come 10 minutes before I'm due to be out the door with my running shoes on.

    Maybe they were thinking I was taking a load of gear before I go running, or something like that.

    You do a test on fight night anyway before or after. Both boxers are tested, win or lose, there's no escape.

    It seems to be in the headlines a lot more, there are definitely more cases of it in boxing lately.

    Froch was left shattered when Jones career ended in shame as a drugs cheat. The Brit said: I was very, very annoyed. I put him on a pedestal. Unbeaten, a super-middleweight moving up to heavyweight and winning world titles.

    Pound of pound the best at the time, no one could hit him, he could punch, he could box, he could do everything and usually did in the ring.

    He hardly ever lost a round and then to find out he was cheating on drugs was quite devastating because I was a massive fan.

    You look back and you think was he that good or was he given an extra boost by something else?

    Were drugs giving him thee edge on his way to the top? Was it giving him the edge in hand speed, was it meaning he could go 12 rounds easy?

    Some of his fights were close late on. The guys he was fighting were looking tired and he was still looking sharp was that down to drugs?

    If he was still sharp because he was cheating, then that is unfair because you never know he might have come unstuck in those final two or three rounds.


    Compared to say athletics and cycling, I think boxing is pretty clean.

    I would never object to any test anywhere because I know what passes my lips
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::lol::rofl:rofl

    This is such a laughable statement I don't know where to begin.
     
  6. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    I love both Froch and RJJ though RJJ is one of my all-time favorites and this isn't a hard fight to predict. Prime RJJ would completely destroy Froch and outclass him. Sure Ward is special and had Froch confused and frustrated, prime RJJ is in a league of his own in comparison.
     
  7. Jon Saxon

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    Joke thread.

    Jones in 7 (MAX)
     
  8. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    You just have to realize how fast Roy Jones was, on his feet and his hands. I mean that would look funny how Roy would land at will on Froch.
    Froch has a granite chin no doubt about it but as far as any other attributes over Roy there simply arent any.
    Froch is relentless and definitely hits hard but technically Roy is really in a different legaue.
     
  9. dan4579

    dan4579 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know why people are bothering to respomd to this joke of a thread. I'm not a huge Roy fan, but come on. That's like Mayweather vs Gatti.
     
  10. assasin

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    we've never seen Roy in with a fighter at this level. never.

    Roy would be a big favorite over Froch, but all it takes is one shot, and i really do mean one shot, from Froch to end it right there and then.

    Roy isn't stopping Froch in any way shape or form. in fact, he wouldn't come close to doing so. Roy could punch, but he wasn't this puncher people make him out to be.

    Jones would have it all his own way for the first 5 rounds with Froch keeping him busy and making him stay active by bringing good pressure that would start off slow, but build up as the fight wore on. going into the second half of the fight, i see Froch backing Jones up to the ropes, something which a lot of fighters were able to do, and opening up with the big shots. Froch would grow in confidence as the fight progressed, while i see Roy having problems at not keeping Froch off of him, and not having an effect with his punches due to the iron chin of Froch.

    the last 4 rounds will be where Froch stands his best chance of getting the win because he comes on strong down the stretch. Roy would be getting tired because of all the work he would have done in trying to stop Froch's march forward. i see him being sloppier and more open to Froch's looping and straight shots at this point.

    if Froch is on his best form, i really could see him taking the fight by late stoppage. if he isn't, Roy would take a decision that isn't as wide as some would predict.

    it's hard in one sense to judge Roy properly on H2H fights because he avoided all the best guys out there. all we see of Roy is fighting guys that were suited to his style, weren't good fighters to begin with, cherry picked, or just straight up bums.

    but i'm going to call it on what we have seen, and what we know about both fighters. Carl doesn't surrender to anyone. his big disadvantage are fighters that can fight on the inside because he's strictly an outside fighter. Jones doesn't fight on the inside, so those problems that Ward caused him won't be appearing here. this will take place on the outside only.
    Jones has a glass chin, which is what you don't need when trying to keep a non stop fighter with an unshakable will and an iron chin who can punch from getting to you.

    my prediction is Carl Froch by KO round about the 9th 10th 11th after being down on the cards to a tiring Jones who can't keep up with the pace that Froch has set. had Jones of had a good chin, i see him hanging on to take the fight by 4 points or so. but that chin is what will be the deciding factor in this one.

    i don't think my prediction will be in the majority, but that's what i'm sticking with.
     
  11. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i agree. Toney does beat him.

    Toney can fight on the inside and has a great chin. those are two areas that Roy doesn't have in his locker.
     
  12. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    which fighters did Jones KO without much effort that were as proven as Carl??

    who?? :think
     
  13. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe wouldn't have given Jones the room to outbox him. he'd be right on top of him at all times, taking away the long cautious boxing that Jones liked.

    he isn't coming close to KO'ing Froch. that would happen the day Jesus comes flying from the sky with the 4 horse men of the apocalypse.

    it's Jones with that bad chin of his that's getting cracked.
     
  14. assasin

    assasin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    the two styles that have caused Froch the most problems are Dirrell and Ward.

    Dirrell because he was negative and flopping around the ring so carl couldn't really get the shots off in the way he would have liked. i mean, how can you when you've got someone so pathetic in there with you who's doing everything possible to not engage?

    Jones wouldn't fight like that.

    Ward because of that inside game.

    Jones doesn't fight like that.

    Froch will have many opportunities to get his shots off. he'll land at some point on that chin. and when he does, it's over.
     
  15. assasin

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    Hopkins was green when they fought. jesus, that version of Hopkins lost his first fight and got beaten when he challenged for the vacant title against Mercado. he got dropped as well.

    Toney was poor around this time. his weight problems had got the best of him. just look who he lost to in those days. ****, he lost the first fight against a past his best LMW in McCallum that they scored a draw.