Carl Froch vs Roy Jones jr ... Prime for Prime

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where should I begin.atsch

 

and who did Jones beat at 168 for him to be seen as invincible???

 

who, a weight drained Toney that lost to lesser fighters around that time??

a green Hopkins???

who?? who was as proven as Froch?? no one is the answer. :deal

 

are you saying that Jones would push him on the back-foot? when did Jones fight like that??

and are you saying that Froch wouldn't fire back with shots like Abraham?? what fight did this happen in??

i love it when people pick wins by giving aspects that didn't even happen. in this case, the complete opposite happens. Froch has never refused to engage.

and not only that, you're picking Jones to do things he DIDN'T do in fights. :huh

 

i thought you'd be in here.

no one is crushing Froch. especially not your hero.

 

I'm going to try as hard as I can to be civil to you.

All it takes is one hard shot?

Yes, but that can be applied to almost any fighter.

The word 'IF' is the biggest word in the dictionary.

IF Ricky Hatton had've landed his Castillo left hook on Floyd, then Floyd would've been rolling around on the floor.

Likewise, IF Carl had've landed the same shot on Roy, that he landed on Groves, Roy would have been fast asleep.

But let's be realistic here.

Roy had superior footwork, hand speed, shot variation, reflexes, timing and skill.

What would have been the chances that Carl would have landed?

It's also entirely probable that Roy could have knocked Carl out.

One of the main reasons that Roy doesn't have more knockouts on his resume, is because more often than not, he was content to cruise to victory.

But Roy knocked out two fighters in Hill and Griffin, with single shots, when they weighed in the 180's.

He certainly possessed the firepower to knock out Carl.

The only question is, how would he have approached the fight? What would have been his mindset?

All of this iron chin talk, needs to be put into perspective.

Carl has a great chin, but he's never been hit by anyone like Roy, who threw lead shots from crazy angles. There is nothing to suggest that he can't be knocked out.

I really don't know where your analysis comes from.

Roy used to voluntarily back himself into the ropes, fighters didn't force him there.

A late stoppage for Carl?

Please!

Roy never fought anyone on Carl's level?

Please!

The rest of the nonsense that you've wrote, is where it's really hard for me not to be rude.

Roy didn't avoid all of the big challenges, and cherry pick guys.

Now if you're going to continue with this BS, then show us some proof.

Let's get real here, just how far can a great chin and a will of iron take you, when you're up against a guy who's much faster, more powerful, with a LOT more skill??

You love to come on here and slag Roy, but the more I read your thoughts, the more I'm convinced that you never even saw Roy fight in his prime.

Carl would have had ZERO chance of finding Roy's chin.

Roy would have destroyed him with ease, and then someone like yourself would have questioned the win, and not given him an ounce of credit for it.

Go and watch Roy from 93-2003, and then get back to us.

You are completely deluded.

 

Thats the only way i think froch could have a chance when jones voluntarily left to the ropes, if he underestimated froch and let him get o him at the ropes froch could catch him its frochs best attack

 

you mean the shot Reggie Johnson that Roy fought??

Froch gets beaten as easily as that does he...

 

Roy NEVER needed to fight on the inside.

He also didn't need a great chin.

Nobody could find it back then.

 

Montell Griiffin and Virgil Hill, with single shots, with absolute ease.

They were both good fighters, and both weighed over 180 pounds.

Try again.

 

unshakable will. mental strength. heart. courage. being clean from performance enhancers. fighting the fights that should be fought.

all of that on top of chins.

 

Ward and Jones have completely different styles though. so it has no relevance in picking the winner between Froch and Jones.

 

Joe wouldn't have gotten in the ring with a prime Roy.

He'd have been right on top of him at all times?

Where do you get all of this from?

Ha!

Pure fantasy.

Why are you so certain that Carl can't be knocked out?

Roy clearly had the capabilities of knocking him out.

 

"On beyond the Glory" James Toney said that Roy beat him square and fair and he doesn't understand why people try to deny Roy credit for that victory.

Green Hopkins? Hopkins turned pro in 88 and Jones in 89. Do the math and tell me who was green. After that loss, Hopkins went ten years without being defeated, in addition to 21 defenses of his Middle weight championship.


Current Hopkins will easily beat the **** out of Carl Froch. I don't even want to think what an athletic specimen of prime Roy Jones would have done to Carl. If a more skilled, faster, and harder puncher in Toney can't touch Roy, why do you even contemplate the idea of Carl having a chance against Roy.

Often you argue for argument sake. This **** is common sense if don't have an agendaatsch

 

No.

Carl would have had many opportunities to get his shots off?

HOW??

You can't just say he'd have landed at some point.

Do you not realise, that fighting Roy at 25, would have been much harder for Carl, than fighting both Andre's.

How on earth could he have coped with Roy's speed??