Carl Froch Wanted Andre Ward/Big Name @ Wembley, But Slithered Into Retirement When GGG Said LEZ GO!

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  1. drenlou

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    Geez... Hopefully these GGGOONS get to eat some humble pie tonight, because my God, they sure as hell could eat some.
     
  2. Drachenorden

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    Ward hasn't fought at 168 since 2013. He won the gold medal at 178 pounds. He couldn't make weight anymore. He had to fight 175.

    Ward had no titles and wasn't relevant at 168. GGG has bigger targets (Canelo) in sight.
     
  3. dinovelvet

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    He was 160-165 when he won the gold medal. Ward would have no problem going back down or even meeting GGG at a 170 CW . He was tiny next Kovalev.
    Pavlik did with for Hopkins. Everybody takes challenges except for Golovkin
     
  4. Drachenorden

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    Ok now you're just posting nonsense. Golovkin is much more known than Ward. If Ward was so big and popular why didn't he even had any PPVs before fighting Kovalev?

    Hordes of people out to meet Ward? LMAO please stop...

    And what has CONlan now have to do with anything? Ronda Rousey fights also had a lot of buzz. UFC 205 had a lot of buzz. Klitschko vs Joshua is a bigger fight than GGG vs Jacobs. How is that relevant to anything concerning GGG and Ward? Hell, there are probably more people who know Ward as the guy who sparred with Nate Diaz than people who know him from boxing.

    LMAO please stop. You obviously don't know **** about how the boxing business works or you're just desperate to hate on GGG. No one needs Ward in their life. He's literally the most useless guy you can fight if you want to advance your career when you're already more known than him like GGG is. And Ward was never "available", he made an unreasonable offer when GGG already had a fight booked. This fight was never even a remote possibility.

    If anything, Ward needs GGG.

    GGG needs Canelo.

    If you don't understand this then you don't have any clue about anything concerning boxing.

    GGG vs Canelo is the big money fight and the biggest money fight in boxing.

    Also, GGG winning against Ward wouldn't improve his legacy in the eyes of casuals who don't know Ward. Why don't they know anything about Ward? Because Ward beat a bunch of people they don't know. And so on. GGG needs to beat a big star (Canelo) to become a star. Then after he gets that done he will be the biggest A-side of all A-sides and let's see if bums like Ward would be willing to line up.
     
  5. Drachenorden

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    Ward was 178 when he won the gold medal. That was his weight class. LHW. He looked big and strong at 175 and it looked like his natural weight class. He's tall and has big frame. He could be a CW too.

    Ward isn't a challenge for GGG, Canelo is. Why are you deliberately so dense? Which boxer would pick a Ward fight over a Canelo fight?
     
  6. dinovelvet

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    Ward would be a better win than Canelo who has a MW record of 0-0-0. And Canelo made it clear he is not interested in the fight , so GGG chasing Canelo is just an excuse for the ducking of Ward.

    Ward was righ there in front of him with a fair and even 50/50 offer on the table and he said - no thanks , i gotta go fight a welter weight instead and wait for the fight that will never happen.
     
  7. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    No, he fought at amateur Light Heavy , he was not a professional light heavy . 178 is one pound bellow HW. Amateur weight classes are not the same. There is no SMW in amateur boxing.
    Ward was 160-165. Even as a pro he had two early career fight at 160.
     
  8. iii

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    Lol
     
  9. iii

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    Wow a secure dipstick...invaluable
     
  10. Drachenorden

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    Amateur Light-Heavy is 81 kilos (178 pounds).

    In amateur boxing, light heavyweight is a weight division above 165 pounds (75 kg) and up to 178 pounds (81 kg),

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_heavyweight

    If he were 160-165 he would have fought at amateur middleweight which has the upper limit of 75 kilos (165.3 pounds).

    Pro boxing / amateur boxing
    Heavyweight --- Super-Heavyweight
    Cruiserweight --- Heavyweight
    Light-Heavyweight --- Light-Heavyweight
    Super-MW + MW --- Middleweight

    With slightly bit different limits but those weightclasses pretty much translate.

    You just got exposed that you DKSAB! You're making things up.
     
  11. Drachenorden

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    No Ward wasn't "in front of him", because Ward isn't even at his weight class and hasn't fought at a weightclass above Golovkin's for almost 4 years now. Ward never wanted to make that fight happen. Making an "offer" that you know the other side won't accept isn't wanting to make the fight happen or being available. Ward wanted to make his name off GGG the bigger star.

    Ward would have been a better win on the record for hardcore fans, but the boxing world revolves around the casual fans, it always has.

    Canelo will eventually have to fight GGG if GGG stays at 160. That's the whole plan.