Carlos Manuel "Tata" Baldomir

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  1. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    I still reckon Clottey was robbed against Baldomir myself and that Baldo is the worst welterweight champion I have seen.

    Zab was always overrated in my opinion, he was a great athlete who could punch very hard with great speed ( his left is - was a bomb ) but he was mentally frail ( he never looked relaxed or comfortable in the ring so he usually tired fast and he also had a bad rep for kayoing sparring partners ), his chin was average at best and he never seemed to actually know how to outbox someone and win a fight on points Mayweather style. His jab was poor.

    I reckon he should have been trained by a real trainer instead of his father. It may have made all the difference.

    Cheers All.
     
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  2. SnatchBox

    SnatchBox Boxing Full Member

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    I don't understand how a human being can such a thing. The Earth is ****ed
     
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  3. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Baldomir was one of the shittiest boxing champions in history. And, it sounds like he is a shitty person as well, if these news stories are true about molesting his own daughter. May he debate his side of the story with Arturo Gatti soon!
     
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  4. Tin_Ribs

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    What that man said.
     
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  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Any stories regarding this? Never knew he KO'd one of his sparring partners, none the less multiples...
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I've heard that about Judah.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    After seeing this :bump I was just doing some tangential reading about the Davey Hilton case, and holy ****...I didn't realize the daughters (yes, plural, over a three year period while both were in adolescence, from 12-15 and 14-17 respectively) he molested were actually the blood nieces of none other than one Mr. Arturo Gatti - the same guy that, along with Judah, made Baldomir a (brief) household name. Hilton's wife is Thunder's sister, Anna-Maria Gatti. Small world.

    That family seems to be almost cursed with ****ed-up tragedies, considering how Arturo met his unsettling & mysterious end.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Article on the Hilton daughters from exactly five years ago:

    http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/04/02/je-lui-pardonne--jeannie-hilton

    The eldest forgives him, the younger (the wicked cute one, seated in the front of the photo) is hesitant to. Neither wants any contact with him and they're wishing the best to his new then-baby daughter with a new wife (incidentally, their age) but won't contact her unless she reaches out first.

    As of then, pushing 50, he apparently was attempting to get into the ring to revive his pro career, which is a bad sign for his "stability". :shakehead:
     
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  9. Thread Stealer

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    I don’t blame them for wanting any contact with that sick ****.
     
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  10. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Sucks to face the dilemma of having a half-sister and maybe never getting to know her, though.

    I can actually relate personally to some aspects of this whole situation.
     
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  11. Russell

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    Butt, have you ever seen the "Twisted Fate" Hilton brothers documentary?
     
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  12. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Never heard of it...Canadian production?
     
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  13. Russell

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    I'm not sure. I've heard really good things about it several times, and I know it's easily available via youtube and other sources. I've just never sat down and watched it, pretty... morbid subject matter.
     
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  14. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Baldomir was actually on a tear from 99 to 2006. I'm not gonna break it down, but he didn't lose during that period and fought decent to high quality opposition.
     
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  15. NoNeck

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    I really wouldn't call Baldo the worst champ at 147, unless we're talking about lineal.

    If you matched him against the following guys, he'd beat some of them:
    Mayorga
    Six Heads
    Victor Ortiz
    Malignaggi
    Jose Rivera
    Piccirillo
    Zavek
    (among others)
     
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