Carlos monzón vs Roy jones jr 15 rounds!! 160 pounds

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Monzón vs Roy Jones 15 rounds 160 pounds

  1. Monzón by decision

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  2. Monzón by ko or tko

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  3. Roy Jones by decision

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  4. Roy Jones by ko or tko

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  5. Draw

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  1. Charlietf

    Charlietf Active Member Full Member

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    I go with escopeta by tko in the round 13 or 14.

    Carlos gradually increased the intensity of the work and had tremendous endurance, I can see a fast and athletic roy outboxing him the first rounds but as the fight goes on his pace would drop and Carlos would end up breaking jones down in the last rounds tko in 13 or 14 rounds.
     
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  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Active Member Full Member

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    Good Post.
     
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    The Morlocks Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Active Member Full Member

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    The above listed post makes a lot of sense, World Middleweight Champion Carlos Monzon, Argentina, 1970-1977, 89-3-9, 61 KO's vs Roy Jones Jr 65-9-0, 47 KO's. Carlos defended his title 14 times, before retiring as champion on July 30 1977, following his unanimous decision win over Rodrigo Valdes, Colombia, in Monte Carlo, Monaco. He had not lost a fight since Oct 9 1964, spanning 82 fights. He had an iron chin, having been decked by 2 opponents, Jorge Fernandez, in 1966 and Rodrigo Valdes in 1977. He never watched films of future opponents, Amilcar Brusa, his trainer since he began his pro career in 1963, used to scout his opponents for him. Carlos had this immense confidence and coolness during a bout. Tall and rangy, he would pursue Roy, stalking him, cutting off the ring with his long left jab, throwing his combinations to the head and body, looking to set up hid deadly right hand. Rpy with his God given tablets would trouble Monzon early, as he is faster, but Carlos would solve the puzzle, stopping Roy in round 13, by a TKO. Monzon would trap Jones in a corner after catching him with a well timed right hand to the jaw.
     
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  5. DavidBarnes

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    Monzons telegraphed jab and right cross would be easily avoidable for Mr Jones I think. He would read his patterns like a book. Jones wins every round.
     
  6. Flash24

    Flash24 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say same results as the Hagler vs Jones hypothetical fight. Jones has to many questions Mark's and not enough answers to pick him against a prime Monzon.
    I believe a true ATG would find away to test Jones. Especially over a 15rd fight, where fighters like Monzon, Robinson, Hagler, or fringe great fighters like Tiger truly proved their worth.
    It's easy to envision Jones winning a 12rd fight over all those great champs.
    But it's also just as easy to think in 15rds, they would get to him. And judging by what happened to him when he slowed a little, getting KO'ed by nobody special, it's easy to infer if any of the fighters he fought during his prime had the ability to get to him, he would've been KO'ed.
    I believe over 15rds fighters as talented as Monzon, Hagler , and a few others wouldve solved the puzzle, stopped Jones.
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We
    Well Richard, I was going to type up what is usually my standard post when trying to explain that Monzon would win...how he would win, the reasons for it, what round,...for the umpteenth time, but I read your post, and I'll be damned if I can equal or top what you've written...all I need to do is second what you posted! :beer-toast1:
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :BangHead: You belong in the General Forum son.
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    I went with Monzon via decision. I don’t think Jones peaked at 160
     
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  10. blackfella96

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    I think Roy has the athleticism and fitness to go 15 rounds, 12 rounds I would say Roy
    but the extra 3 slightly moves towards Monzon
     
  11. DavidBarnes

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    Stop crying because my opinion does not align with yours.
     
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  12. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jones close UD.
     
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  13. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Active Member Full Member

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    Having admired Carlos and following his title bouts, I could not resist Red Cobra,. He was something special in the ring, I still remember when I saw him in person, and yes a fan.
     
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  14. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Active Member Full Member

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    I saw some of his opponents try to run from him, It did not work well for them. Carlos did have incredible stamina and never panicked in the ring.I remember his title defense against Bad Bennie Briscoe on Nov 11 1972, tough fight but he won on points, he solved that puzzle, as well as defeating Rodrigo Valdes, twice, who was one tough hombre.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    I lean toward a Jones decision.
     


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