Carlos Monzon @168

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Agreed:beer-toast1:
     
  2. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    You guys care to name any names?
     
  3. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon fought before the 24 hr weigh in. He struggled with weight in Emile Griffith rematch.
    Under today conditions he would probably rehydrate to 175 - 180lbs. At SM without weight struggles
    he would probably be more effective. At LHW probably not as many of these fighters come in at 185 -
    195lbs and some are heavyweight giant slayers. One of CM best attributes was how relaxed he was
    he never wasted energy or punches and the chilling way he stalked his opponents with relentless
    cold blooded passion.
    Super mw is a relative new division but has already got some great champs such as McCullum, Toney,
    Ward, Calzaghe, Froch , Jones Jr. However CM had a mind of a big cat and when hunting his opponent
    could adjust to all conditions.He didn't win his last 80 fights for a reason. Somehow , some way he
    alway found a way to win.
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Which, if any, of those great champs would you expect to lose to Monzon?
     
  5. juppity

    juppity Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Monzon would beat McCallum , Toney ,Froch , Calzaghe on points . Jones Jr was so athletic
    in his prime . People only seem to remember the current RJ and say he has a weak chin .
    The prime RJ was king of the ring and like great champs had a touch of arrogance.
    RJ reminds me of Jeff Fenech , Tyson once they lost that aura of invincibility
    they were never the same . Jones on points.
    Andre Ward is not the same fighter anymore. The long contract dispute and inactivity means
    we have seen the best of AW. In his prime at Super mw Andre was dux of the
    class. Andre on points.
    I forget to mention Hopkins. Similar style and attitude to Monzon. Monzon points also.
     
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  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I like this, but I would pick Monzon over all those mentioned.:thumbsup:
     
  7. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Monzon would do very well @ 168...His physical advantages wouldn't have such an impact...But he would still be very strong (maybe stronger?) and the high ring IQ would still be there...and the style...Monzon was never taken out of his style or pace. Carlos would be a very tough out @ 168.
     
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  8. JohnThomas1

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    Not really, it's all speculation.
     
  9. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He'd do very well IMO, he was a very big MW and he'd be a good sized SMW, in fact at SMW's relatively short history the only SMW I'd pick with confidence to beat him is RJJ, as he was as close to unbeatable as it get's at SMW.
     
  10. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones best opponent at 160 was a green Hopkins. jones looked very human against Hopkins,

    Monzon UD Jones
     
  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Well Monzon would be atleast 8 pound lighter on fight night so he will lose to all the bigger opponents.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    This is the thing I've come to realise.

    It's better looking good against a great opponent than looking great against a good opponent.