Carlos Monzon - All Title Fights

So if you feel this way, why are you here discussing?

 

So **** and mugging old ladies and attempted **** of a minor is alright?. And beating the crap out of yr wife is alright? That is what Leo did. Just like MONZON. Only LEO did it for his drugs. With Monzon it got out of hand and they both fell. But Leo and Tyson laid fist on wife and old woman (truly sickening) and you ignore the similarities.

 

Yeah. It got out of hand. Monzon strangled his wife. Threw her off a balcony. The coroner knew she was dead before she hit the ground with her face, crushing her skull, because she didn't try to break her fall. Monzon called an ambulance because he said he hurt his arm. He never told anyone his wife was dead out back with her head exploded on the concrete.

He denied he did it. Then he said he couldn't remember. Then they paid a guy at his trial to say they both fell off the balcony to try to get him off, but Monzon would've had more injuries than a "hurt" arm. And the coroner said she was strangled before she went over.

He was tried and convicted, and nearly got cleared because he was a hero, but even the Argentinians couldn't clear him like the U.S. jury cleared O.J.

And you don't want anyone to bring it up that he murdered his wife because you want to "ooh and ahh" over his jab.

Other guys had better jabs. Other guys were better champs. Monzon was boring and murderer.

Screw him and all the fanboys who still want to blow him. Pick a new hero.

 

Yet, you avoid the question of whether other boxers with deplorable and atrocious crimes and convictions are also held to this standard.

Personally I feel Monzon’s actions carry a human consequence, that was held up in a conviction. There are many boxers who exhibit in humane behavior. I personally separate the 2. I don’t condone or accept his behavior, nor do I accept or condone the behavior of multiple other boxers, athletes, celebrities or public figures. However I don’t feel that it restricts them from inclusion of conversations of thier professional accomplishments

 

Nino was past his best by then.

 

The standard of MURDER? No crime is as bad as Murder.

That's "THE CRIME."

Carlos Monzon committed all those other atrocious crimes, too, beating numerous women, etc., BEFORE HE GOT AROUND TO MURDERING ONE OF THEM.

When Mike Tyson or Ray Leonard murder some woman and crush their skulls, I won't talk about them anymore, either.

Okay?

 

Well Tyson's a convicted ****** which some (i'm not one however) think is worse than murder.

 

The woman Tyson was convicted of raping got up early the next morning and was participating in dance rehearsals with her friends and fellow contestants.

The woman Monzon murdered couldn't get up the next morning because she'd been strangled to death and thrown off a balcony and had her face and skull crushed on the pavement. The pieces of her were gathered up and placed on a slab in a morgue.

No court in the world recognizes the first scenario as "worse" than the second.

The whole topic makes me sick. And the fact that anyone here is actually defending Monzon makes me sick, too.

 

There has NEVER been a better champion . champ 7yrs 124 defenses. Undisputed. 13 yrs unbeaten.
There are no excuses for murder. None. But as a fighter MONZON was great.
Nino could be at his 100% prime and Monzon still tears him apart.

 

Most middleweight champs over the last 50 years could've beaten up Nino Benvenuti, who was an average-sized super welterweight most of the time.

And, at one point in the early 1990s, James Toney, Michael Nunn, Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, Gerald McClellan, Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Mike McCallum, Michael Watson, Steve Collins and Reggie Johnson were ALL RATED middleweights.

Monzon would've had a difficult time even hanging with most of the top middleweights by the 1990s. He reigned over a weak era. The days of edging old welterweights were over.

And he was a murderer.

And he was boring.

Enough said.

 

I said i'm not one of them didn't i, but i know people who do think **** is worse than murder, and i don't see anyone condoning what Monzon did, someone pointed out that he took responsibility but that's not defending him, but they can still respect him as a fighter and a champion whatever he did.

 

Seriously man what is the point in this.
Where talking boxing here .
Your completely out of line here. You put your personal feelings about what the man did outside the ring and hijacked the thread.
Its bull#### man and you should know better.

 

Personally I'm more appalled that Monzon threw oranges off his balcony at random pedestrians. That's going too far. Also, I suspect that his icy death stare and rough handling tactics had subtle homoerotic undertones to them. Nino was a handsome ******* after all.

War Monzon! Great fighter who I don't quite think is the guaranteed shoe-in as middleweight numero uno that is often taken for granted. It's like Robert Allen never ****ing existed to some on here.

 

Just who the **** do you think you are jamming your moralistic crap down the throats of people that come here to talk boxing and telling them who they should and shouldn't be discussing?

People know what Monzon did and didn't do and they know what various other boxers have done. When they want input and thoughts on such matters they will ask.

If you want to slam into boxers on such matters start a thread on it instead of trolling/ruining the threads of others.

If you don't think much of Monzon as a fighter feel free to go head long in that direction. Don't however expect many to take much notice of you as it's become blatantly obvious over the years you have little to no idea about boxing. Stick to regurgitating hard to find facts from the 70's and 80's which is about all you've got truth be said.