Carlos Monzon - All Title Fights

Monzon was shown live many times on ITV live defending his title in Europe. I remember the inconclusive stoppage of the much smaller Denny Moyer, who had no problem landing his left hook frequently. Bouttier, twice, Boggs, Tonna, Mundine would hardly qualify for "murderers' row", neither would Tony Licata. Nino lost to Monzon in Nov' 70, 18 months after Benvenuti had lost to Africa's greatest, in Tiger's third last fight when he was well past his best. Other posters have covered the Griffith, Napoles, Briscoe, Valdes fights.
Despite his numerically impressive record, I doubt if it would have been compiled say, in the 50/60's where he might have faced Giardello, Robinson, Tiger, Fullmer, Webb etc.
I enjoyed watching his fellow countryman Victor Galindez far more than than the stilted, albeit effective Monzon.

 

I really enjoyed watching Monzon myself.. One of the best at measuring distance, using the jab so effectively in several difference ways.. my favorite using it as a blinding measuring stick to land so often on his opponents side of the head area, doing damage and frustrating the hell out of them.. so many clever defensive turns and twists that Brusa taught him and incorporated it into his game because of Brusa's wrestling background … You wouldn't even really know what you were looking at unless you have wrestled … Monzon did so many things well that maybe just wasn't the best to look at for some, but I loved it … When the fight was on the line in the championship rounds and you have figured your opponent out, that was Monzon

 

I tend to agree that Monzon probably would have had a much, MUCH tougher go of it in that era.

 

Several MW's beat him? Like who exactly? Monzon's an ATG MW accept it.

 

Worst post of the year candidate.

 

EVERY YEAR. KLOMPTONS OBVIOUS FEAR THAT MONZON WILL TAKE THE SHINE OFF GREB HAS BEEN ON THIS FORUM SINCE THE LITTLE DILBERT HAS BEEN POSTING

 

I think he would have had a much harder time against the elite, prime, full-grown middleweights of the 90s than he did against the little guys, has-beens, and also-rans of his era.

 

Lol. Monzon wasnt even the beginnings of a pimple on Grebs ass. Stack up Greb’s accomplishments to Monzons and Monzons looks like nothing and thats with 95% of his fights in his backyard with that horrible Argentine officiating. No, my lack of interest in Monzon is because I have eyes and actually watch the sport and study not just the hyperbole around the man the fighters that he actually made his name against. How many fights of Bogs, Tonna, Licata, Bouttier, Mundine, et al have seen? Not as many as me. Care to take bets on that? So how are you going to call into question my opinion of those guys? I saw a post the other day by a so called expert on facebook dedicated to Bouttier and how great he was. I had to laugh. My guess is the ONLY fights of Bouttiers hes seen are the Monzon fights and here this “expert” is waxing poetic about a European fraud whose best wins were absolute robberies. Yet Monzon fought the guy twice and did so because his close friend, french actor Alain Delon was promoting the fights and looking out for him. Or the Moyer situation mentioned above whereby Monzons handpicked referee stopped Moyer for no reason after having flown to the fight with Monzon and carrying Monzons luggage for him. He felt he needed that kind of protection on neutral territory against Denny ****ing Moyer a 33 year old ex junior middleweight with 22 losses to his name. I could easily go on but I stand by my point. I think Monzon reigned over a weak era, made weaker by the fact that he refused to fight his top contender for three years, and is overrated. As far as comparisons to Greb go spare me. Monzon fought the same length of time as Greb but managed to squeeze in less than 1/3 of Grebs fights. Monzon fought 3 hall of famers in five fights and every single one was over thirty and past his prime. Greb fought something like 15 hall of famers in something like 45 fights. So yeah, nearly half the amount of fights Monzon had Greb waged against all time great fighters that are often considered as the very pinnacle of talent of their respective divisions and often garner P4P plaudits as well and usually he was doing it on the road. Not at home with home cooking against nobodies that nobody ever heard of like Monzon was doing the vast majority of his career. I wont even get into all of the contenders that arent hofers that Greb fought across three divisions while Monzon was feasting on smaller, older fighters and also-rans. Grebs resume shits all over Monzons any way you slice it.

 

Murder is categorically different than other crimes but why does that distinction matter here? Certain other crimes (like ****) are also heinous enough to merit the same kind of opprobrium. But we compartmentalize athletes’ and other celebrities’ personal and professional lives all the time; this is really just the extreme end of the spectrum imo.

Seems like Carlos Monzon was a disgusting, disgraceful human being. And I think its weird when people try to minimize his personal savagery or imply that doing pathetic stuff like beating women or attacking reporters somehow underscores his in-ring strengths. But while I’m pretty sure I personally would never cheerlead for a person who beat a woman to death no matter what, there are other reprehensible trangressions that I’ve sometimes overlooked in my favorite fighters and entertainers. So it would fee hypocritical for me to judge people for being willing to celebrate his boxing.

Just my two cents.

 

Many fighters have been **** out of the ring .. You need to separate in the ring and out of the ring imo … If you don't, you personalize it and bring in emotion

 

Awwww, I’m sorry for saying mean things about your hero bud. Who’s the emotional one here? You were probably sobbing when you typed that, weren’t you clown?

 

I've said this for yrs.