Carlos Monzon dropped 3 times and nearly stopped by Felipe Cambeiro

Jumped out at me".boxing is a bit more than who did he beat "
**** OFF SONNY !

Monzon met 2 punchers period.
The analogy you make about Jake and SRR is bollocks Jake took BIG punching Lhvys shots.
"Probably still very handy at middleweight," You patronising *****.
Show me a blow out comparable to the Fullmer Ko ,.that was acheived by Valdez ,over the same proven type of durable opponent .[not Briscoe please].
You should visit with Mendoza!

 

Monzon met two punchers? Rubbish sweeping statement.

You're the one who brought up Robinson, not me. If I were making the argument, the first I'd have brought up would have been Bob Murphy (who of course stopped LaMotta ).

Why not Briscoe? He was as durable as Fullmer, surely. Bit convenient of you to disallow that one.

I don't even need to find any more examples. Valdez was a massive puncher, it's just a known thing. Just like Eugene Hart could blow your brains out - if he landed.

Calm down, old man.

 

I keep hearing about Hart but haven't seen him spark anyone? Was he really that big a puncher???

 

I brought SRR into the equation to illustrate Lamotta's durabilityat 160lbs
Murphy was a light heavyweight something Monzon NEVER experienced being hit by.
Valdez was a heavy banger no argument there, so why regurgitate him?
Briscoe was a good puncher but not stellar, imo. NAME ANOTHER MONZON FACED.
ps no need to confuse profanity with anger,when I use it I'm angry.
Young Man :good

 

Gratien Tonna? Jose Jorge Fernandez?

Monzon's jaw dealt with enough challenges to prove its worth - but in your old age you seem to think I'm claiming LaMotta's jaw wasn't as good.

It was just as good, probably even stronger, but he didn't have the same survival skills.

And on Eugene Hart, he knocked out a few good fighters, but his 'lack of' doesn't mean he couldn't hit. He had a terrific left hook, it's a known thing in Philadelphia, he just didn't have the other skills necessary to land it consistently.

 

That's a great avatar Manassa, you've gne through more lately than you did in ages. I srt of associated you with 'the she bangs the drums' one. You must be back in love with boxing with these new ones you're sporting.

Is that Rodrigo Valdez?

 

Yeah, I know it sounds silly but playing Fight Night Round 4 with my mates sparked up the interest again. Yeah it's Valdez after the Monzon rematch.

 

It's a good game. Still isn't 'perfect' you CAN blow Hagler away inside a couple of rounds on the hardest difficulty. It just SHOULDN'T HAPPEN!

Best game engine in terms of fighting is still Victorious Boxers for me. Looks like the real thing, unfortunately every character is chinny as **** AND has massive power!

 

I took issue when you said Monzon was probably the second most durable middle .
Tonna, Fernandez were no more than scond tier punchers imo.
I said Monzon faced two real punchers nothings changed my mind.
Which by the way still functions.

 

And I think you jumped out of your pram a bit too hastily, unless of course you were being ironic since normally you're the one who has a go at me for getting worked up. Which, by the way, I never do - it's the internet.

On Tonna & Fernandez - Tonna was maybe second tier but still ferocious in his own right, Fernandez was more than that, knocking the **** out of anyone who wasn't at least a strong contender. Regardless of skill, both punched very hard and you can bet Monzon caught their hardest punches on the jaw.