Carlos Monzon erased from history

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  1. jayboy

    jayboy Member Full Member

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    Brittish tv have appeared to have erased carlos monzon from boxing history. We have a greatest fight series and all the houseold names appear you know who i mean but Monzon we have never seen 1 of his fights. We attended a dinner show where Marvin hagler was v i p and he was asked how he might have fared against Ray Robinson and his answer was " ray was not of my era the man i would have loved to have met was Carlos monzon he was the MAN" when Angelo Dundee was Ali trainer he described Monzon as the "best box fighter he had ever seen" those people know there boxing is Monzon dismissed by U S TV. also?.:nono
     
  2. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He's rarely shown on TV because the casual fan doesn't appreciate or understand his style. And sadly enough, many of the more hardcore fans on here are the same way it seems.
     
  3. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I hope not, monzon was one of the best if not the best middle ever....
    Had he been born in the states he would be up ther e alongside the greatest names ever....

    Too bad his memory in britain appearently is starting to slip.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I don't know if he's erased from boxing history, but he's definitely overlooked by a lot of boxing fans. Not the most exciting guy in the world, but if you appreciate the finer points of the sweet science, you'll appreciate what Monzon brought to the table.
     
  5. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ..............Monzon is definitely an acquired taste. He had no real signature fights, instead he was just relentlessly consistent, and had a style that meant no real risks taken; he'd prefer to pick you apart on his terms. Some are bored by this, but he was indeed a special fighter. Best middleweight ever, I think.
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    I think, from a Uk point of view, it was also because he never fought any of our fighters. Most of the big names from the US in the 70s and 80s all had a British challenger at some time, so that exposure got them more airtime and notice. A Conteh fight was mooted but was really a non-starter as Carlos didn't really want to fight at 175. The other was kevin finnegan- who was in line for a crack in 1975 but he was upset by Gracian Tonna. If that fight had gone though Monzon-Finnegan would be a feature on those great fights I'd say.
     
  7. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He is mentioned alongside the greatest fighters as it is, it has nothing to do with not being from the states. Duran wasn't from the states either.
     
  8. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    What he accomplished was great and I think he deserves more clout as well ... but it happens more times than most in the history of sports. They take one or two key players from every generation and completely over look the others that had a dramatic effect on the sport.

    I think that Monzone is a top 5 middleweight ... and the best Argentine in boxing history.
     
  9. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Im not sure about him being erased from History, I think we all have to remember, Boxing is almost a cult sport nowadays, I wouldnt even bother asking some of the people I know if they knew who Carlos Monzon is??
    He is a true great, whether shitty tv shows show him or not means little I think, you dont see many shows about the likes of Henry Armstrong, Sandy Saddler, Pep, Jofre, Sanchez either...............



    Ive actually forgotten the point I was making!!!!!!!!! :huh

    Forget those shows, the people that know boxing know where hes at:good
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    One of the best ever.

    Like it or **** off.
     
  11. Dark Sider

    Dark Sider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Out of the ring-- one of the worst ever.
     
  12. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great fighter.Throwing your wife off a balcony doesnt usually help your legacy stand tho
     
  13. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ouch!

    It shouldn't matter in a sporting sense....but it probably does in reality. When old fights are shown on TV they usually go back to the studio panel afterwards, who then break down the fight and tell you why it was so good. Afterwards the main presenter will then go on to tell you what happened to the boxers after that fight, both in their careers and then after they had retired. As far as Monzon was concerned that would not be pretty viewing.

    However, when all is said and done he is still one of the best MW's of all-time.
     
  14. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with the thread starter. Ofcourse I know Monzon was one of the greatest middleweight ever but that isnt really my opinion, thats just from what I have read or what I have bothered to look up about him. Footage is rarely shown, in fact iv never seen a classics show pick up any Carlos Monzon fight here in the UK... Ive seen Eubank Vs Ray Close a dozen times though...:patsch
     
  15. Quickhands21

    Quickhands21 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree it should not matter when lookin at his career..Monzon was a beautiful fighter.. But thats what happens when you do something like that..