Carlos Monzon rated 7th in a list of the P4P greatest fighters

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  1. Mark Adam

    Mark Adam Active Member banned Full Member

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    In a boxing magazine Monzon was rated 7th out of a list of 50 fighters over the last fifty years in 1996.
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    Quality of competition 9
    Bouts vs Top 50 fighters 3
    Why he`s here Check the record books: Went undefeated for 13 years and 81 bouts; made a division-record 14 successful defenses (needs updating)
    What he could have done to better his ranking Been born 15 years earlier so he could have fought Ray Robinson. Do you think Monzon`s record was better than Mayweather`s?
     
  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Pfp.robi was better but h2h at mw carlos too big,strong and effective for him
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    The thing about that division record is it is still legit if we're talking about defenses as unified or undisputed champion.

    Before 2001, Bernard Hopkins was a belt holder. A very good belt holder, but still holder of only one of the 3-4 legit world belts. Hopkins unified after that, so was really only the undisputed champion for about 4 years and 6 defenses of the WBC/WBA/IBF titles after beating Trinidad.

    Whereas Monzon made 9 defenses of the unified title before he was stripped by the WBC and regained that title 3 defenses later to reunify the championship.

    Marvin Hagler was also unified and undisputed champion but throughout his whole reign - 12 defenses.

    So I think the record still stands with either Monzon (depending on how seriously you take Rodrigo Valdez's claim as WBC champion) or Hagler, but not with Hopkins.
     
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  4. red cobra

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    If Monzon never existed, it would have been Rodrigo Valdez whom ppl would be speaking of with the same reverence as Joe Louis.
     
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  5. Mark Adam

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    Rodrigo Valdez was tied at 51 on this list with Don Curry, Jeff Chandler, Nicolino Locche and Joe Brown on this list.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Too low for Valdez and Locche too, for that matter.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    other than the heavyweights, I wasnt impressed with the middleweights or lightweights. the middleweights dint get good until Hagler came up
     
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  9. Gudetama

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    1946-1996?
    Monzon at somewhere around number 10 sounds good to me.
     
  10. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    REally?

    i think there is a very good argument for monzon to say that

    he is the best fighter ever, in the best division ever (middle), and that head to head he would start favourite over the most peoples best pound for pound fighter ever (Robinson).

    Where should such a reputation put him on a pound for pound basis?
     
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