Carlos Monzon Versus Roy Jones Jr.

if you pulled a mock aias of Rooster, it shows he must have done a job on you.

why dont you just ignore the pri*k?

 

Of course, in the UK where we speak proper English, we call roosters 'c0cks'.

I'd like to go down a similar poultry route for an alt and want to also pay homage to that musical genius Prince.

I'm therefore thinking then, for my alt username, of Purple C0ck. Whaddaya think as a starter for ten?

 

Pristine username that and very pertinent in this case particularly when SRL praise crosses his path.

 

You can't use the Tarver example as Tarver isn't prime. When we use hypothetical matchups we use hypothetical aspects, so we put both of them in their primes and adjust weights as our hypothetical "setting." You got that, prime Jones absolutely destroys prime Monzon. Monzon is not fast enough and Monzon is too nonchalant to be doing anything.

 

Yes Jones can definitely take a right hand from a guy who only KO'd cans. Let's be honest if Jones had even half the competition of Monzon ya'll would swear to god Jones would be the greatest MW of all time. Put Jones in that unknown undeveloped 70's era and he would have 100 KO's, easily. Call it recensy bias but recensy bias is justified because its recensy, I don't believe in recensy bias because philosohphically speaking time moves in a linear pattern, as time advances, technology, ideas, the world advances in a linear motion. As time passes boxers get better, boxing training gets more advanced, boxing supplements, ideas, health, nutritional advice gets better with age, recensy bias I don't believe exists. Roy Jones was more gifted, simple as that, he beats Carlos, not saying he would KO Carlos, but he definitely wins.

 

It's not impressive, it's not impressive this not impressive that, you can say anything not impressive until you get in the ring with the guy and realize the guy could punch faster than you blink. It's easy to say something when all you have is drunk eyes looking at a 30 FPS TV screen. Speed is everything, so is power. If you have speed, you have timing, if you have timing, you have KO potential, its that simple. Imagine The Flash as a boxer. Oh it's not impressive if the guy can throw a million punches per second, my favorite Boxer Ken Buchanan could beat the flash in a boxing match because his speed is so slow, SMH, such flawed arguments. Jones UD's Carlos

 

The guy you are quoting passed away recently.

This thread brings back alot of memories I'd only just joined the site and this was my first real debate on this forum and my first interaction with Richard.

RIP @Richard M Murrieta

 

Why bring retirement into the equation if we are equating primes bruh, this logic alone makes your entire case invalid, stop talking boxing arguments

 

Oh damn RIP whoever I just quoted. Yeah man despite all these disagreements and all that, debating boxing can give us so much memories, and give us so much knowledge. Most of us boxing fans get our knoweldge while veteran fans educate us. While boxers are fighting with fists us fans here passionately fighting with words defending our favorite fighters man, back in the day everyone was so passionate, nowadays fans just bandwagon whoever is the hottest trending boxer, I'm still an old school fan who goes around educating the newer generation of boxing fans of the past but I can also agree there's a middle ground where one era peaks every era before and after. I love the 90's man, 80's was good, 2000's was good, but 90's was peak. You had your 3 princes of boxing, Roy Jones, James Toney, and Hopkins, and everybody fought everybody. This era wasn't as electric as the 80's but this era was the middle ground where it was very developed and fighers didn't fight as much as in the 80's, but they delivered classic performances when they did fight the best. Obviously I am bias when I say Roy Jones but obviously my bias justified because the 90's were so much more advanced than era that precedes but also the 90's were more gritty and more raw than the eras the precede it, to me, as a 90's boy, 90's were my golden era. God bless man