Carlos Monzon vs Chris Eubank Sr At MW

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Carlos Monzon vs Chris Eubank Sr At MW

  1. Monzon By PTS

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  2. Monzon By KO/TKO

    15.6%
  3. Draw

    3.1%
  4. Eubank By PTS

    3.1%
  5. Eubank By KO/TKO

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  1. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jermain Taylor and Kelly Pavlik wouldn't of been top twenty in 1990. That conveyor belt of 70s kids watching Ali on free TV was overwhelming into the city's gyms. The depth of talent back then, more so at middle than any, was hideous.
     
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  2. Xplosive

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  3. Bulldog24

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    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trust me, Eubank's chin was UNBELIEVABLE to take those eight power shots Benn got through in the fight. They were the same shots that sent all the others head over heels. And the sheer noise of the Benn right hand smash on the pads was like a shotgun, it would echo.

    As for the body shots, Eubank was excreting blood for weeks (!!) and had badly bruised ribs, as well as being winded a few times in the fight.

    He was unstoppable.
     
  5. Xplosive

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    Learn boxing.
     
  6. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Use common sense and accept truth.

    Carl Froch would've peaked as Central Area Light Heavyweight Champion in 1985, when there were only two belts and no 168 division. Dennis Andries would've outlasted him for the British title. I was there then and I'm here now.
     
  7. Xplosive

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    And yet, the above post has nothing to do with how Eubank and his rudimentary skill match up with Monzon.
     
  8. Bulldog24

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    Eubank himself says nobody could move like him (and we Know Chrissy Boy doesn't fish fry). He feet were extremely quick against Benn and Watson at 160, moving in and out of range and laterally, almost gliding across the canvas - heck, he wouldn't of left footprints in the snow. I know that pains you. Let's not even bring that jab into it, you know the one that closed the overmatched Wharton's eye before the end of the second round with the knuckle part of the glove. Yeah that one. When was an eye ever closed near that early without a thumb. I'll wait patiently with my cane.
     
  9. Bulldog24

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    Not to mention mostly six-inch punches, ie hard to read. Thrown from a gloves-together at sternum-height stance, ie even harder to read.

    He had all the ability, this is blatantly clear to Stevie Wonder (those left uppercuts!), he just got lazy and was often drained to the limit needing to pose to conserve.
     
  10. Charlietf

    Charlietf Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hell no. Benn was a natural super mw and valdez started his career at 135 pounds,benn was a bigger man and h2h at mw valdez did not hit harder. Pfp it is debatable ,but h2h at mw noway. We had 2 hard punchers here but benn is the bigger man.
     
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  11. Bulldog24

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    I've never seen anyone hit as hard as Benn. Light-heavies and heavies I've seen hit heavier, but without that 'snap' of a Benn bang. Lighter weights were quick but not as powerful. Julian Jackson was scary but look closely and you'll see it was accuracy, right on the edge of jaw or point of temple.

    Benn was hitting guys foreheads, faces and even necks and lifting their feet off the ground and shifting them across the ring for knockdowns, that's brute force. Julian was timing a guy with speed and they'd be out before they began to fall like a chopped tree.
     
  12. Mendoza

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    Eubanks problem wasn't durability or effort, it was lack of skills. He's got a lot of SD's and draws failed to beat the best fighters he meet. Monzon wins on points.
     
  13. William Walker

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    It's funny, I'm a bigger fan of Monzon than Eubank, but I actually think Eubank gives Monzon a tough fight, although I still say he loses.
     
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  14. William Walker

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    Rubin Hurricane Carter and Marvin Hagler may have had power that rivals Benn's, but I can't think of too many others, maybe McClellan.
     
  15. Bulldog24

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    Eubank gave rounds away to inferior fighters due to posturing, turning his back to strut to the crowd or standing like a statue! His lack of stamina was mighty clear, largely from being overly muscled and going into fights totally weight-drained to the limit.