Carlos Monzon vs Herol Graham

Monzon would win by a ko or tko. Graham would take too many right hands and just be roughed up too much for his own good. Monzon ko 8.

 

the thing for me about monzon is that i cant picture any fighter not being forced by him into fighting his fight. monzon just bosses guys around or hypnotizes them and never lets them fight any other kind of fight other than the kind he likes. its just very hard for me to think of any tactical way to go about disrupting monzon, he was the most in control fighter of all time.

 

Monzon close decision, Graham would win the early rounds with his speed, angles and better defence. Monzon would get his jab going, timing him with jabs and rights as the bout progressed, the jab generally dictating the rounds but also scoring more rights and bodyshots and being more efficient down the stretch.

Monzon 9-6 maybe as close as 8-7

 

Monzon by not close decision.

 

Monzon would time Herol with a heavy right at some point in the fight, probably late, and stop him.

And I don't think Graham had a **** chin or anything but he was open to a shot that Monzon threw well. Kalambay could hurt him badly with it late, Jackson sparked him early. Monzon heavier puncher than the former and, goes without saying a lesser hitter than Jackson, but he'd get the job done after taking a good few rounds to fathom what the **** 'Bomber' is doing.

 

Graham was good, Monzon was great. This is a match between two different levels of fighters, yes Graham had a tricky style but thats not enough to overcome the huge difference in class between the two of them, it might take a couple of rounds for Monzon to get use to Graham's unorthodox style but once Monzon settles in and gets his rhythm going he will pick Graham apart before catching him with one of his right hands that knocks Graham out.

 

Monzon by points win, maybe a kd or two along the way.

 

Carlos Monzon TKO 11 over Herol Graham.

 

Monzon wins 11 of 15 rounds comfortably (after Herol takes 2 of the first 3) and cruises to an easy UD.

(Or a draw if it’s in Argentina … because Argentina.)

 

No, the fight would probably be held in Paris, France or Monte Carlo, Monaco. Monzon liked to display his skill to the world, that is what a World Champion does, not like these fighters who only fight in Las Vegas, Nevada because they think that they are Elvis Presley singing Viva Las Vegas to the ring girl who thinks that she is Ann Margaret from 1964.

 

Almost without exception, fighters fight where the money is.

Monzon wasn’t much of an attraction in the U.S. and had what, was it only one title fight here?

Nevada offers not only big purses (because casinos bid big to host big fights historically) but also tax advantages (I think there is zero state tax on outsiders who come in for a one-off event, or at least little — as compared to New York, which takes out tax as if they’re a resident).

 

Monzon had one fight in Madison Square Garden on June 30 1975 against challenger Tony Licata, Carlos stopped Licata in round 10, the taxes must have been high for Monzon. As for Carlos not being an attraction, fans in the states want fighters to act like clowns before fights, boastful fighters, Carlos treated the fight game as a business, not some clown show. Also the media did not care for him because he refused to learn English, why should he? He was a big star in Europe, he had an acting career in Argentina with some very attractive women. I think that people including fighters should be themselves, not try to be a puppet for any fans or try to replicate some other boastful fighters who have big mouths, or try to be flashy, that is boring.

 

Jackson`s right hand v Graham landed crisper and quicker than any punch Monzon ever threw, I don`t think Monzon had one punch KO power. McCallum said Jackson had quicker hands tyhan anybody he fought, Graham was quicker than Monzon too and harder to hit than anybody Monzon fought, he could also match Monzon`s reach.

 

I think it had more to do with his style than anything. It was effective, sure, but not eye-pleasing. He wasn’t a big puncher nor a slick boxer, just a very, very capable one. Plenty of non-American fighters in his day became popular in the U.S. but they had more pleasing styles.

It would have done him wonders as far as marketability (worldwide) to have fought a couple of more times in the U.S. and especially to get on an Ali undercard or two. Victor Galindez, Alexis Arguello and Alfredo Escalera to name a few did that, and even if they weren’t prominent on the broadcast or closed circuit, the entire boxing press was always there at Ali fights so word would spread.

As I recall, the reaction to the Licata fight from many in the boxing press seeing him live for the first time was ‘so this is the guy everybody was making a big deal about … I don’t get it.’ And frankly that’s what a lot of people seeing him today who have great knowledge and appreciation for boxing say when seeing him first. He’s not so much impressive as he is effective.