Carlos Monzon .Vs. Marvin Hagler

Chinny Hearns was no Griffith or Benvenuti at middlweight. Of course, he looked great when hitting other people. Tommy's best work came at 147/154 everyone knows that.

 

Yup. Look at the Napoles and Duran fights. 1974 Jose was considered the best pfp in boxing; 1983 Duran may have squeeked into the Top 12 list. Carlos beat Napoles like he was his daddy. Meanwhile, Hagler was starstruck and was asking for Roberto's autograph in the clinches.

 

We'd all believe except we know you're fabricating since you know no one can see tape of it and are really making the "school" part up. why don't you stop embarrassing yourself?

 

Napoles was on the downslide for at least a year and was another year from losing his title--big deal

Monzon ko 6 Napoles
Stracey ko 6 Napoles

What's the difference?

 

Why don't you just tell the truth for once and tell what really happened?

Hagler broke his jaw, knocked him out, and retired him. You call that a schooling?

 

Schooled for 11 rounds it says against a contender whose bogus ranking was woefully misplaced. Just ask Jack Obermeyer.


The Massachusetts title. What a joke. Colbert received his shot by beating the drummer out of Boston on a split decision and drawing over 10 rounds with Kim Deal from the Pixies.

 

One was nearly two years later. Just like Hagler's crappy, starstruck effort against Leonard was two years after his famous Tommy victory.

 

it was the following year. why are you always lying for?

 

Feb 1974 - December 1975 is, like I said, nearly two years you stupid ****.

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You always resort to the name calling "****" every time you get frustrated. Can't figure why you keep showing off your family album.

 

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Aww, Colbert wasn't that bad. Heck, he fought one-handed most of the time 'cause his other hand was hanging onto the ropes - probably out of desperate fear! He was kinda fun to watch because his style was so awkward he made other boxers look silly.

 

You really believe Tommy Hearns at middleweight would have "destroyed" Nino Benvenuti? Ever see Benvenuti fight? He was big, strong, smart a hard hitter and a pretty slick boxer.

And Emile Griffith is arguably the best fighter ever to have crossed over from welter to light middle to middleweight and back down to welterweight, winning titles all along the way against top competition, not cherry picked bums.

You may not be old enough to remember that during Hagler's title years he was criticized the same way Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins have been - that his level of competition was relatively weak compared with Monzon's, Griffith's, Giardello's, Tiger's, Fullmer's, etc., to say nothing of SRR. Personally, I don't buy it. Hagler faced good competition and proved he was the best at the time and one of the best all time MWs.

 

Valdez would have ripped Hearns a new arsehole.