Carlos Monzon vs Marvin Hagler

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  1. KTFO

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    Carlos Monzon of the 1970's, versus Marvin Hagler of the 1980's, bout at middleweight. Hagler fights with a pebble in his right shoe.
    Who wins this? How and why?
     
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  2. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon
     
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  3. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Marvin Monzon.
     
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  4. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Carlos Hagler.
     
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  5. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    "Marvelous" Marvin Monzon
     
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  6. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carlos "Escopeta" Hagler
     
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  7. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd take Monzon by decision. His height and range would be the key difference in an otherwise evenly matched fight.
     
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  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I touched on this briefly in my middleweight survey article, and here's what I wrote:

    Making a case for Hagler over Monzon is a trickier proposition. Essentially, this is something which comes down to personal preference. In terms of accomplishment, both were highly celebrated middleweight champions deserving of all the accolades they receive. Since I view them on equal footing in terms of accomplishment, I’m forced to wonder who would win if they squared off at their best. In a head to head contest, I tend to believe Hagler would have defeated Monzon. Hagler had a tremendous ability to avoid the jab, and I believe in a mythical fight between the two that he would have been neutralize Monzon’s jab and work his way into mid-close range where he would have a decided advantage. At mid-close range, I think Hagler is able to penetrate Monzon’s stellar defense, and I believe Hagler would also be able to take advantage of Monzon’s slower footwork. I see it as being a highly competitive hard fought contest that eventually sees Marvin wear down the bigger Monzon for a clear points victory, and possibly even a late round stoppage.
     
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  9. KTFO

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    Maybe......but not with a pebble in Hagler's right shoe. He's not that mentally stable. :hat
     
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  10. Toker

    Toker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon
     
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  11. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joke thread?

    Personally, I think Monzon. He always get´s the job done and more often than not I don´t exactly know why. He just looks so average. To me he is really marvelous ^^
     
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  12. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A chess match that is evenly matched most of the way. Monzon has the reach, whereas Hagler has the talent to slip Carlos' slow jab and then counter to the body. I feel Marvin would gradually wear Monzon down and win by points over 12...and by 14th round TKO over 15.
     
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  13. PunchOut

    PunchOut Active Member Full Member

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  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Okay, I mean picking Marvin to win is reasonable. What´s not reasonable is wearing Monzon down and TKOing him over 15. That won´t work with Monzon.
     
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  15. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    KTFO; one of the reasons I can't be arsed with this board anymore. What a tool.
     
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