Carlos Monzon vs Rodrigo Valdez

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by dmt, Dec 29, 2007.


  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

    10,727
    15,576
    Jul 2, 2006
    i was watching it last night, and round 10 was especially brutal for th challenger. Monzon utterly beat the crap out of him, punished him at every turn. How Valdez was able to stand up to that beating is beyond my imagination. Even though Carlos was old, he looked excellent.
     
    hdog and Richard M Murrieta like this.
  2. youngmonzon

    youngmonzon Active Member Full Member

    804
    6
    Nov 4, 2007
    I assume you mean the second fight in 1977. The first match in 1976, Monzon was even more dominant.
     
    Richard M Murrieta likes this.
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

    38,042
    7,530
    Jul 28, 2004
    This is why I always make my assertion that Monzon was so great, because he TWICE whipped Rodrigo Valdez. Valdez, for those that are unaware, was an excellent, world class fighter, who, if it were not for Monzon, would be classed as an all-time great Middleweight champion. He had all the gifts to be a dominant champion.
     
  4. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

    7,766
    93
    Apr 6, 2007
    I love the knockdown in the first fight. Very precise.
     
    Richard M Murrieta likes this.
  5. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,495
    2,146
    Oct 22, 2006
    But that is it, he did not whip Valdez...

    What adds to Monzon's legacy, is that he beat the mighty fine peak Valdez twice, despite being perhaps 5/6 years past his best, right at the end of his career.
     
  6. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

    7,766
    93
    Apr 6, 2007
    Actually, if anything, Valdez has seen his best days.
     
    MURK20 likes this.
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    25,495
    2,146
    Oct 22, 2006
    Of course, he was fighting Monzon... No one was saying that before the bouts.;)
     
  8. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    23,655
    2,134
    Aug 26, 2004
    Valdez was an excellent middleweight who could box and punch, the Victory for Monzon capped off a fine career
     
    louis54 and Richard M Murrieta like this.
  9. Hank

    Hank Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,463
    15
    Dec 30, 2006

    Valdez was a cocaine fiend, and it ruined his whole life. Monzon was better, but how much coke Valdez was into leading up to fight is something I wonder about. They had a common opponent, Gratien Tonna (sp?) and both ko'd him, Monzon a bit easier.
     
    Richard M Murrieta likes this.
  10. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

    7,766
    93
    Apr 6, 2007
    :huh
     
  11. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,714
    3,452
    Jan 6, 2007
    Didn't Valdez & Monzon both fight Briscoe????
     
    jowcol and red cobra like this.
  12. youngmonzon

    youngmonzon Active Member Full Member

    804
    6
    Nov 4, 2007
    Yes. Monzon fought Briscoe to a draw in 1967 and then dominated him in a title defense in 1972 (W15).

    Valdez actually scored a brutal KO over Briscoe. Get this one on DVD, it is a spectacular KO. He also scored a couple of decisions over Bennie.

    Valdez would have been a dominant middleweight champion in the 1970s, if not for Monzon. People would be considering Valdez an ATG. I believe Valdez is a top ten all time middleweight.

    Monzon's two wins over Valdez prove his status as the greatest middle.
     
    red cobra and Richard M Murrieta like this.
  13. jowcol

    jowcol Boxing Addict Full Member

    4,333
    834
    Jul 22, 2004
    If you check Valdez's resume, he turned pro in 1962 at age 16!
    So he was actually in his 15th year as a pro when he and Monzon fought. Actually he was a bit past it at that point (of course Carlos was as well.)
     
    red cobra and Richard M Murrieta like this.
  14. Manassa

    Manassa - banned

    7,766
    93
    Apr 6, 2007
  15. Smith

    Smith Monzon-like Full Member

    5,953
    2
    Mar 8, 2007
    Brilliant fight, have it on my hard-drive.
     
    Richard M Murrieta likes this.