Carlos Monzon's second loss

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  1. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Some poster from another site named Martin Sosa Cameron posted a short report in spanish on Monzon vs Felipe Cambeiro.

    I don't speak spanish so I used google translator.


    "THE COURAGE TO MONSOON PUZZLE Cambeiro

    "Despite having suffered three falls, the Argentine middleweight Carlos Monzon (72.300 kg) came to confuse the former Brazilian champion Felipe Cambeiro (72 kg) with its sweeping attacks based solely on their mettle and spirit of professionalism.

    "Importantly, from the 2nd round with Monzon was virtually useless right.

    "The eight rounds set were directed by the referee Walter de Araujo.

    "(....) The program was held on Sunday June 28 in the auditorium of the TV Rio ..."

    NOTES: This fight was held in Rio de Janeiro, RJ, Brazil, in 1964. Cambeiro Philip, was born in Spain but their citizenship, of course, was Brazilian. Connoisseurs will remember the great power of the right hand of Monzon, unable to imagine what it was when from the beginning of the battle was "useless" as we are told. The brief comment was signing Kaled Curi, who was twice Brazilian champion lightweight and, before winning the crown, and was a prominent journalist in his country. As these jobs are almost impossible to find, we include in our Spanish forum as I think is of interest to our friends fans.
     
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    It seems like hand injuries plagued Monzon from the beginning of his career.
     
  4. Senor Pepe'

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    One of my boxing contacts is the son of Celedonio Lima, who fought Carlos Monzon in 1964, and in 1965.

    I will try to get the 'scoop' on some of Monzon's early bouts.
     
  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Always tried to find more info about this fight......without success.
     
  6. Lord Tywin

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    Every bit as interesting are Monzon's fights with Manoel Severino. Who Monzon was unable to defeat until he fought him on his home turf and won on a premature stoppage with the referees help.

    Severino was a short powerfully built fighter who was rugged, durable, and strong. The guy had one of the best physiques in boxing at the time, if not the best. He was built like a bodybuilder and probably could have had a more successful career in that field than in boxing. Regardless he won amateur championships in Brazil in 1961 and 1962. When he was 33 and already past his prime he won the middleweight championship of Brazil despite never being more than a blown up light middleweight.
     
  7. Senor Pepe'

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    Got some information,,,,,

    November 18, 1964

    Distrito Federal, Buenos Aires, Argentina

    Celedonio 'El Gato' Lima........16-0-2 (13 KO's)... (Age; 24)
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    Carlos Monzon......17-3-0 (14 KO's).... (Age; 22)

    Two, young, strong and hard-punching Argentinian Middleweights.

    Celedonio Lima, was born in Argentina in July 1940, but moved to Lima, Peru when he was 6 (in 1946),
    and stayed there until 1959. Then moved back to Buenos Aires.

    'El Gato' turned professional in December 1961, after a very successful amateur career in both Peru and
    Argentina.

    At the 1960 Olympics, was the Argentina (71 Kg) Light-Middleweight Representative. In the Quarter-Finals
    lost a (3:2 Split-Decision) to American Wilbert McClure, who went on to win a Gold Medal.

    The 5' 11" Celedonio, was a straight-ahead fighter, with good boxing skills, and suprising power. He was another
    'highly regarded' Argentinian Middleweight, who was expected to go far. And at the time, was considered
    to be a better 'all-around' fighter than Carlos Monzon.

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  8. Lester1583

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    Have you seen the fight, LT?

    I've heard that some of Monzon's pre-title fights (Monzon-Tom Bethea) exist on film.
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    Report on the Carlos Monzon vs. Celedonio Lima I bout (November 18, 1964)

    From Celedonio Lima's Newspaper archives.

    The 24 year-old Celedonio Lima, a more experienced boxer than Carlos Monzon,
    scored early with straight left-rights, backing him up, winning the first '2' Rounds.

    Things got rough from that point on, with alot of clinching-and-mauling. Neither
    fighter scored with any telling blows.

    Lima managed to score with a good short right early in Round 6, the best punch of the fight up to that point.

    More clinching-and-mauling in Rounds 6 and 7.

    Carlos Monzon came on a little bit in the last 3 Rounds, as Celedonio Lima had tired
    some. Monzon scored with better left hands in Rounds 8 and 9.

    Round 10, Carlos Monzon was the aggressor, as Lima was trying to hold on to his
    1-Point lead, and avoid getting tagged.

    The bout was ruled a "10-Round Draw''.