Carlos Ortiz-Len Matthews - brutal TKO finish.

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Horrible TKO. I'm reminded of Williams-Jack:

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    Ortiz is smooth putting Matthews away. Doesn't panic or rush, just timed shots, he doesn't even seem to get arm weary. They'd probably crucify a ref in public for letting this happen in the modern game. Horrible.
     
  2. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    If that was today, it would've been stooped about 30 second before it was there. Was Matthews ok? He took an absolutely horrible beating.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Brutal but Matthews hands were held at chest level, what was he thinking?
     
  4. sugar71

    sugar71 Active Member Full Member

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    Thank God boxing has learned from those days & better protect its fighters IN the ring.
    He was Okay & was fighting a few months later. According to his record he fought roughly 35 times within the next five years ,but had to retire fairly young due to eye problems.

    He was a retired School Janitor according to an article I once read & died several years ago in a Nursing Home. I don't know if Dementia was his issue ,but he was only about 65 or 66.
     
  5. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He said it was his toughest fight Ortiz, most people have probably seen him say it on Latin Legends.
     
  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a write-up on the fight I got from Boxrec. Interesting what Matthews' manager had to say.

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    1959-04-13 : Carlos Ortiz beat Len Matthews by TKO in round 6 of 10
    Location: Arena, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
    Referee: Pete Pantaleo

    "Carlos Ortiz is talking of a lightweight title bout after showing unexpected power in a 6th round TKO of Len Matthews. The bout belonged to Ortiz all the way, although it didn't appear a mismatch until the 6th. While not apparent at ringside, Ortiz said Matthews hurt him in the 3rd and again in the 5th. But, the winner said, Matthews lack of defensive ability made the big difference. That's the way the fight ended. Ortiz shot a stiff left hook to Matthews' jaw and followed with a combination to the head that stunned the 19 year old Philadelphian. As Matthews backed off Ortiz shot dozens of blows to the head. Matthews hands fell to his side. Ortiz glanced inquiringly at referee Pete Pantaleo, then resumed his unchallenged attack. Pantaleo quickly stopped the scheduled 10 rounder with 39 seconds remaining in the 6th." -Associated Press

    Post fight comments

    "I found out that when you get him stuck in one place you can hit him. So my strategy was to get him against the ropes and go after him. I could have beaten the champ the way I felt. First I have to meet Willie Toweel in London and then I hope to get Joe Brown." -Carlos Ortiz
    *Ortiz really showed a lot. He just had too much for Len. The referee could have stopped it earlier and I wouldn't have complained." -Tony Graziano, Matthews' manager
    Retrieved from "http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/Carlos_Ortiz_vs._Len_Matthews"
     
  7. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Saddens me to see this. Early in his career, thought Len was gonna be the next SRR.
     
  8. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well he's looking for uppercuts and bodyshots in close and in the tiny bit of footage we have is doing well at rolling and slipping when the fight strays to the outside. Once he's hurt he's really hurt.
     
  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    High praise. Where did he fall short of that type of status, for you, and what was it you saw early on that made you feel that way?