Carlos Ortiz vs Benny Leonard 135

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    primes!
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Good Lord... I could buy this one either way but am going with Leonard. Let me think some more the reasons for this.
     
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  3. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

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    Ortiz was a great fighter but it's pretty tough to justify anyone beating Leonard at lightweight.

    He was probably the greatest fighter who'd ever lived up to the point he retired - and I include Gans, Langford and Grebb in that view.
     
  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Can’t wait to hear
     
  5. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    Jesus. Probably Benny, you know? I could definitely see Carlos taking one in a likely series though, especially if they were facing each other more than once on the way up ala Leonard -Welsh. You couldn't beat Ortiz stylistically, that book was never written. You just had to be better than him - incredibly frigging difficult - or catch him on an off-night. Benny was one of the tiny few who was probably a slim shade better, best for best. And one of the even tinier few who has an argument for being more dominant against similar/slightly better opposition. Ortiz would've been his greatest opponent at the weight though and I'd imagine any fight between them to be close with Leonard probably playing matador rather than trying to drive Ortiz onto the back foot.



    I love Carlos, but best for best I'd probably take Leonard on points by a couple of rounds with most rounds being closely contested and Leonard's reflexes making the slight difference.
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On paper you probably have to favor Benny