carlos takam v fatt bermaine stiverne ?

I doubt the version of stiverne who got KO'd by Wilder would beat anyone in the top 30 of heavyweights. Takam wins comfortably

 

Stiverne was an embarrassment.

I can't blame Wider for the state Stiverne was in, nobody should to be fair, but that was a ridiculous "fight".

Stiverne should just retire, I hope we never see him in the ring again, he was given a chance and in my opinion just looking at him he looked like didn't even bother to train.

 

Stevenson could have jumped up from 175 and put Stiverne to sleep that night.

 

The **** can anyone make an argument for Stiverne with? He didn't do anything.

It'd just be another **** HW bout between two **** HWs.

 

Takam ICES him

Any top 10 CW would have ICED the obese rasta that night.

Imagine what Gassiev, Dorticos or Usyk would have done to him?

 

Takam by knockout easily................

 

Stiverne is a shadow of his former self. Once he won the title it was clear he has pretty much been going through the motions and not living the life of a professional boxer. Even before the first fight there were rumours that he hadn't been training and had to lose a huge amount of weight. Add on 2 years of inactivity where he clearly trained very little if at all and him being almost 40, it's clear he is shot.

Right now I'd say he's at the level that Audley Harrison was at the end of his career, when Audley was KO'ed in 1 by Wilder and Price. In fact Stiverne is worse now than even a shot Audley Harrison, that Harrison KO'ed Rossy in 2 and Rossy knocked Stiverne down and took him 10 rounds in his previous fight. That's right this Stiverne is worse than a 41 year old Harrison.

So Takam KO's him inside 3 rounds.

 

Takam savages his ass like a starving pitbull.

 

I wouldn't want to bet on current Stiverne against Molina, let alone Takam.

 

From how Stiverne was in in his last fight coupled with his age and overall inactivity Wilder should have had a pretty damned good idea what sort of state he was going to turn up in.

Wilder could have also opted out of it after Stiverne's missed drug test earlier in the year, since as far as I know a missed drug test counts as a positive and would invalidate your mandatory position.

So yeah, I think I will blame him for taking part in that farce.

 

Errr I agree but I have been giving Wilder so much hammer the last two weeks I was trying to be kind LOL

 

I wouldn't rule out Takam putting him away in one round. Stiverne is shot to pieces.

 

Stiverne was never good. Takam is a decent fighter

 

Opted out? I'd need some kind of source before I'm going to believe a champion can opt out of a mando, I've never heard of such a thing.