Carlson Gracie vs. Gene Lebell

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    The Lebell who beat Milo Savage in their boxing vs. judo match in 1963 vs. the Carlson who beat Santana in 1955 and drew with him in '56.

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    CARLSON vs. SANTANA

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GesmWClbdeQ[/ame]



    LEBELL VS. SAVAGE (more of a documentary, unfortunately; can't find the full fight)

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mER2BmNRA[/ame]
     
  2. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lebell, just because he's a boss. Love the story about him choking out Seagal.
     
  3. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Hard to see Carlson getting Gene down, and I dont think LeBell would want to stay in Gracie's guard if he fights smart and does his homework.

    I think the Gi would play a major role in how this one goes. I think Carlson cant use the Gi against Gene, kinda like Saku v Royce, but with less success in out muscling Gene like Sakuraba did.I fancy Gracie by Gi choke from the bottom after taking some tremendous punishment via punches in the clinch and ragdolled to the ground consistently

    Both great fights with great fighters
     
  4. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Is the Gracie footage an exhibition?

    I don't know much about the early days, but doubt a fight with the boxer would've been as much of a struggle if the Brazilians had fought him. Mixed Martial Arts bouts were common in Brazil, and Brazilians were familiar with them. This may have been Lebell's only fight something like a MMA bout.

    Nonetheless, the Brazilians looked more adept to grappling.