Carmen Basilio vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. whos your pick?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Galivan was past his prime and he still boxed circles round Basillo the majority of the time excluding the KD.

    Castillo has the same talent as Basillo and guess what he lost twice. On Mayweathers worst night he won an SD, he erased any doubts by winning a wide UD, on Basillos worst night he was losing to journeymen
     
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  4. Stonehands89

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    Mayweather was ahead 89-81 on two ringside scorecards and 88-82 on another. So, no he didn't. And many observers, including myself, saw it closer.
     
  5. Mega Lamps

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    I've thought of this before and it would be an entertaining fight but a prime Basilio is just too much for Mayweather and would win a Unanimous Decision I believe. Mayweather's defense may prevent a stoppage.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

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    Mayweather stopped Hatton a similar fighter who a puncher like Tyszu couldn't stop. mayweather floors fighters because he lands flush and perfectly and very often, I'm not rating him the biggest puncher. Mayweather didnt stop the iron chinned Baldomir partly because he broke his hand, against Judah he got low blowed.

    Sugar Ray was way past his prime when he faced Basillo
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    Hatton wasn't landing anything of note though and got tagged flush in every round. At most you can give Hatton 2 rounds. If it went the 12rounds hatton could have lost every round or at most won 2 rounds. Thats a domination
     
  8. Minotauro

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    Are you seriously comparing Hatton chin to Basilio because Carmen had a much better chin he was only stopped twice in 72 fights and both stoppages were controversial especially the second. I'm not saying Robinson was in his prime but his power was still there evident by him knocking out Fullmer who had a great chin in his previous bout. A past prime Basilio was able to take a prime hard hitting Fullmer shots for 14 rounds. The guys chin is great without question nothing you have said gives any reasoning that Mayweather would knock him down, just because he can knock down Hatton doesn't mean he doing it to Carmen. A lot less durable fighters have stood up to Mayweathers shots and yet your convinced one of the most durable welterweights ever would fall.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    Hatton has a top grade chin, I'm not talking down Basilos chin just saying if he kept getting caught flush for 12 rounds something would give in the later rounds. People said Hatton couldn't be stopped after eating Tyszu's shots flush for 11 rounds, now remember Tyszu was been talked about as being the hardest puncher P4P at the time

    36yo Sugar may have still had his power against Basilo but did he still have the timing, placement, stamina to hold his power for the 15, I don't think so. Also Basilo fighting at 160 will have been stronger and have been able to absorb punnishment better

    Mayweather may not KD Basilo but he will regularly hit him flush and if the neck starts snapping back he'll get kd'ed, if not he'll lose a wide UD.

    Fullmer was hardly Mr KO with 24KOs from 64 fights
     
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  11. Stonehands89

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    That's also subjective.
     
  12. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather might catch Basilio off balance and drop him, but he isn't going to be hurting him or stopping him often in his tracks, that is a given. Anyone that needs convincing simply needs to watch Basilio stand up under Sugar Ray Robinson's fusillade in the 11th round of their first fight. If Basilio can survive that onslaught, he has nothing to worry about from Floyd.

    Those bringing up how Mayweather stopped Hatton should reconsider the merit of that achievement because the very average Luis Collazo nearly did the same thing. Hatton is not in Carmen's league in a p4p measure, to say nothing of comparing them at 147.
     
  13. Mantequilla

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    The Collazo fight and mayweather bouts pretty much prove Hatton has a very suspect jaw at 147.

    None of them are hard hitters at the weight.
     
  14. Dempsey1238

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    Galivan didnt box circles around Carman. Thats a myth. Basilio won the fight imo.

    It was a close fight, and relly neither had the upperhand though out most of the bout. The last round RELLY was the round to factor the winner since the scorecards had it a draw leaded into round 15.
     
  15. pugilistspecialist

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    Your old school biase is uncontrollable. Billy Graham never won a world title, did beat viable contenders and some world champions, but could never capitilize when the opportunity came.
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    . We really cant say if they would be champions in Grahams era, just like its no gaurantee Jack, Angott, Williams and others would be champions in this one....its all opinion. Anyway there is no dispute Mayweather accompished more. Lets get real Mayweather won the ODLH fight by 3 or 4 rounds after Oscar stop using the jab taking shots to the body and getin countered. As far as Castillo it could have gone either way, Mayweather got the nod and rematched him and boxed Castillo's ears off, which no one ever brings up.