Carmen Basilio vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. whos your pick?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by RealIzm, Apr 5, 2008.


  1. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather fought a safety-first fight and looked unimpressive in the rematch against Castillo.i had him winning by about 4 points.

    Not exactly impressive stuff for me considering my relative disdain for Castillo.

    Also while i think Mayweather is an excellent fighter his lineal accomplishments are a bit misleading.He really hasn't done a great deal against quality opposition since moving up from 130 where he was at his best.

    He had a very short stay at 135 with only two fights against one good oponent being of any significance.

    His Welterweight reign only really has Hatton, Judah and Baldomir.Hardly a murderers row.
     
  2. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your opinion or disdain for Castillo doesnt take away the fact he has been the best lightweight of the past 10 years. Holding Mayweather to two close fights, drawing and beating Steve Johnston, Cesar Bazan, Joel Casamayor,Diego Corrales,Juan Lazcano, Julio Diaz and Jorge Paez.

    How could his lineal acomplishments be misleading when he beat fighters that were regarded as the champion. At lightweight Castillo was the man and also a great fighter, after 3 defenses(Castillo, Ndo, and Sosa) fighting 3 top ten contenders like Champions are supposed to do, he moved up for the big bucks for a shot at Tszyu or Gatti. At the time lightweight wasnt as stacked as it has been the last 2 years so the chance fr big fights were scarce.

    As far as his lineal accmplishments at Welterweight he has done exactly what he was supposed to do....
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    It may not be a murderers row but it is more than any other welterweight today has done and thats why he is the champion.
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's all about level of competition. Just look at who Floyd Myaweather has beaten to win all the titles he has. You think Graham wouldn't beat all those guys? Of course he would. He may have the odd loss (as Floyd himself should) but he would hold titles for sure.

    Graham fought in a much tougher era and to me there is no question that if Floyd was thrown into those times, he would struggle and he may not even have won a world title.

    As for Mayweather boxing Castillo's ears off in the rematch, Floyd ran like a ***** all night and absolutely stunk the joint out. He won by 2 -4 points, but it was far from a dominant display.
     
  4. DFW

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    I don't know who would win this one. But I doubt Mayweather can knock Basilio down. The only time Carmen was ever off his feet was in his last fight against Paul Pender in 1961. By that point in time Carmen was past his prime. And even then he gave Pender a good scrap with just his right hand as he hurt his left shoulder in the second round. His left hook was his best weapon. A prime Basilio would have beat Pender rather handily. He might just have put the hurt on Mayweather as well.